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> > 😂 Another GWM classic - I literally put my name on the post. 🤷🏽♂️ > > I don’t understand the rush to co-sign with Washington Post’s laziness. The onus is never on a private citizen - or public figure, regardless of the size of that “public” - to prove their innocence when under attack by media. We all travel our own courses and set our own standards, but this sort of laziness never gets a free pass from me.
Whatever one thinks of JM, to call an exhaustively researched investigative expose “lazy” displays a total lack of familiarity with the layers of editorial and legal review that’s invested in a Washington Post article of this scope. Dozens of interviews, transcripts, corroborations from contemporaneous witnesses-you better believe this is an airtight piece or it never sees the light of day.
The WaPo is not known for their "layers" of editorial and legal review. They do this type of stuff all the time. They are accurately described as a "news rag".
I will add that no one is as bad at this as the NY Times. WaPo is not the only news outlet to engage in lazy journalism to fill a deadline.
Kristal Tosko would think he's a POS, but she's his ex-wife. I don't know the details of their falling out.
I saw some posts from her a while back talking about him being a bad person but I thought it might just be sour grapes
I don’t think she likes Alina Popa very much
Jake Wood does seem genuinely to be invested in empowering women because of his daughters
Not surprised that thi has gained some traction here.
You don't have to wander very far to find rumors or evidence of some of this elsewhere. A well known photographer was rumored to have run an underground site for years. One still-running site has advertised nudity, but there are more than a few postings where there are nip slips (or footage of the women changing or adjusting tops) that they probably would have prefered not published.
Like many things the issue of "control" is at the center. Do the photographers/promoters want to control the women? Control the content? Do the women want to control their own image and careers (obviously yes). 30-35 years ago (I had to do the math on this) I don't think many were particularly worried about "leaks". With video going out on VHS and photos being hard copies they were never going to disseminate as quickly as what we have now.
The Jen Gates (!!) portion was interesting, and mirrors somewhat what I have seen even from women now who are making content on their own. I would include cam along with OF and similar sites on this--as soon as they have a) reached a financial goal or 2) pivoted their life to include family, stuff gets shut down. But at least they get to control what and how they do it. An example: Slava was doing full topless for years--i don't know the exactly pivot reason for her change in mind, but she no longer does full frontal or nudity. COuld she be making a lot more? Maybe. But in weighing the risks vs how much money she'd be making with vs without she may have decided it's not worth it as she gets older and maybe wants to have a family or something.
Most of these women probably didn't have the same option. I would be interested to know the process in deciding who was approached for Ray Martin videos in addition to the vanilla WPW stuff. And (correct me if I'm wrong) Annie R is the only one I know of that leaned hard into it, eventually making a solo site that had her own topless/nude/fetish, and then Muscle Angels and the surrounding infrastructure.
I wonder if this some how will cause all the bodybuilding competitions in north America and western Europe to be cancelled. or they will have to pose in very modest outfits that don't really show off the muscles.
Please recall that figure comps were done in one pieces until the mid 2000s, which I keep forgetting lol
You don't have to wander very far to find rumors or evidence of some of this elsewhere. A well known photographer was rumored to > Please recall that figure comps were done in one pieces until the mid 2000s, which I keep forgetting lol
Which is funny because simultaneously FBB's were still competing in skimpy bikinis. The rules have never made much sense, and I doubt they ever will.
Which is funny because simultaneously FBB's were still competing in skimpy bikinis. The rules have never made much sense, and I doubt they ever will.
i just did a quick search at early 90s bbers and to the divisons credit the size of the bikinis has basically been the same (while allowing for adjustments in cup size since it seems like more women now have implants than some of the iller-fitting tops containg whatever breast tissue was left back in the day).
The bikini division is a joke, and I sincerely mean that, from both sides. On one end you have a division created explicitly to financially exploit sexuality, and on the other more girls than ever are lining up to compete in bikini voluntarily, and the fact that there isn't an uproar over the rear glute pose this far in is amazing.
I have a friend who is working toward a pro card that had complained to me that her semi-large following was mostly men, and she wanted to cater to women to grow a training business. but she also is a bikini competitor and posts bikini poses.
Jamie Eason commented on Twitter:
I sensed this from the get-go and ran for the hills from those people back then. They threatened to blacklist me if I didn’t join their organization. I declined and risked it anyway. SO glad I did!
I never heard anything bad about him. To be around him seems like a safe haven for competitive female bodybuilders.
Met him also in person once at a show, he appears like an oversized teddy bear.
Agreed on both points, and I've met him too. He's very gracious and outgoing and I've never heard of any issues with him.
Professional fitness - especially the womens part - is very ageist by nature. Similar to most other sports that way. As athletes get older, their opportunities diminish.
I don't know how much of a role that Jake Wood has in the Wings of Strength podcast, but I'm happy that he employs women who are veterans of the scene (Alina Popa, Lenda Murray, Isabelle Turell) to be the hosts and personalities. They gave the best of their years to the sport and know it better than anyone. A lesser person would simply stock the videos with 20-somethings, so I really respect him for that (provided he's the one that made the decision).
The WaPo* is not known for their "layers" of editorial and legal review. They do this type of stuff all the time. They are accurately described as a "news rag".
I will add that no one is as bad at this as the NY Times. WaPo is not the only news outlet to engage in lazy journalism to fill a deadline.<<<
Please provide the support for your comments. Those are two newspapers which routinely win journalistic awards. Me thinks you've been listening to an orange-colored man for too long.
I think to pretend that sexuality doesn't, or shouldn't, play a role in a sport that is about showing off the bodies of incredibly well built men and women is sticking one's head in the sand. That said, favoring the women on the score card who participate in your soft-porn site over the women who don't is corrupt and unfair and should not be tolerated. The degree to which the article complained about certain poses, such as the "booty shot," a shot of the biggest muscle on the human body, is to miss the point of the activity. If it is about "bodybuilding," all the muscles need to be taken into account. It would be like punishing a baseball player for having too fast a fastball or too much strength in his swing. Yes, the butt is treated as a sexually admirable part of the body, especially on women, but that does not mean it should be discounted or that pictures should not be taken of it.
Here's a counterpoint, i guess?
Are there specifically sites that feature men in the same situations? Aka like a "HisBiceps" or whatever. Or do they just filter through PH, OF, and other cam sites for G4P where they were the ones that initiated it instead of winding up in the same situations as some of the women?
Here's a counterpoint, i guess?
Are there specifically sites that feature men in the same situations? Aka like a "HisBiceps" or whatever. Or do they just filter through PH, OF, and other cam sites for G4P where they were the ones that initiated it instead of winding up in the same situations as some of the women?
From casual observation, I think no. But then again I could be wrong. Dudes are definitely the largest consumer group for porn, but I'm not sure if that necessarily includes gay guys or not.
I guess in other words, if the market (demand) is there and there's money to be made, then someone will inevitably be all over it.
The WaPo is not known for their "layers" of editorial and legal review. They do this type of stuff all the time. They are accurately described as a "news rag".
This is so divorced from reality, I wonder if you're just lying. You really think journalists just have free rein to just print whatever they want at WaPo? You're alleging that not only do they lack "layers" i.e., a bureaucracy of editors and lawyers, but that they're known for lacking "layers." This is gaslighting. Please, give examples of American newspapers that are not "rags." Or, better yet, what are your trusted sources for news?
I know the point you're trying to make, but the female body also has vaginal muscles. I don't think those will be on display any time soon.<
OK maybe I should have said all the "visual muscles need to be taken into account." The glutes are a relatively important muscle group, don't you think? And if we don't allow booty shots, where do we stop judging the leg muscles. The inner thigh? the inner hamstrings? What about guys who have foot fetishes? Do we stop photographing feet?
Yeah I heard the rumors about J.M. Manion (not his father though!) for quite a while now. There is also one fotografer in Germany who has the same kind of reputation: on a smaller scale, he is rather fishing for young girls of the industry coming from poorer countries for that little extra in return.
I also knew a judge over here in Austria who apperantly has been actively approached by athletes for a better result at the competition, so it also works the other way.
However, I make for myself a difference of how much responsibility a person holds and how much power he or she has over others. In that respect and considering the scale of the accusations: yes - this belongs into the Post. Those cheap sexual advances by athletes rather belong in the free tabloid at the bus stop around the corner.