Must be somewhere between 16-17. If i remember correctly, Nikki Fuller was my first fbb crush

I like women and if a particular one just happens to be muscular, all the better.

Healthiest mates, basically. Big, strong, beautiful women are likelier to produce big, strong, beautiful kids.

I'd turn the question on it's head - men who are attracted to petite, weak women are themselves mentally lacking. Yes I've found a fair few smaller women cute/attractive etc, but AABE a big strong beauty beats her smaller, weaker sister.

You're overthinking it. Ribs are not that strong, and could be fractured without extreme force.

Let's have your analysis then.

Tokyo Novice tournament takes place on 2024-05-03. Eight woman will compete in the women's physique category (see:http://bodybuilding-fitness.jp/Tokyo/Taikai/2... entry numbers 1 to 8 on the first page).

Six of them already started in FBB or FBB-related contests:

Another contestant, (3) Mikami Emiko (三上 江身子) has an instagram account (https://www.instagram.com/sunsunny.amy/):

I didn't find any additional information about the last participant, (6) Ebihara Nachi (海老原 那智).

Hirata Manami had already won two contests last year: Musclegate Tokyo and Kitaku Open. So she could be the favorite.

That's the opposite of what I really wanted to say. My point was that drama is the common factor in addictions and serious disorders of personality.

OK, whatevs. But we should not say that liking girls with muscle is a sign of an addiction or a disorder of personality. That is important to anyone reading this.

I think you're now misunderstanding both me and the concept of androgyny. It has little to nothing to do with looks. The whole point of it is in feelings and behaviors. Reading your reply to GLM55 I gather that if a guy is fun and charming then he's androgynous. Which I think is an interesting viewpoint, but not how androgyny is generally understood among those who came up with the concept.

No! I´ve never said androgyny is just about looks. A young David Bowie is the staple example of androgyny. All I said was that a mixture of qualities are always the best. I do think you can understand what I mean with female qualities, I think everyone else does and you seem to perhaps be a smart guy, I dont know.

Interestingly, some themes keep repeating themselves. I can now say that on this site there are users whose relationship with muscular females is a story, and then are those whose relationship or interest in them is a drama.

That sounds interesting, give us some examples!

In short, it would be an extremely rare woman capable of breaking a healthy adult male's rib via hugging. She would need to be very long armed, flat chested and of course massively strong.

You're overthinking it. Ribs are not that strong, and could be fractured without extreme force.

The physiology damn near doesn't permit it. Most female arms aren't long enough to clasp, not just touch hands around the widest circumference of most male torsos. The term for the greatest compressive force a woman who COULD clasp hands would run from spine to nipples, thus forcing said hands towards herself and her fella for the ride, is attractive compression, ie she squeezes him towards herself, whereas if she cannot clasp, the greatest force she can apply is radial compression, from his sides to his spine.

This makes a difference because muscles of different strength are contributing hugely different forces. Most biceps are somewhat larger and more powerful than pecs. Thus the hands clasped grip should apply more force both because of the biceps contribution. BUT, in most cases, radial compression would actually apply more pressure, because in the attractive type, her own breasts sabotage her efforts by providing your ribs unwitting allies that absorb a lot of her own force.

PLUS...anyone who's gotten drunk and given/received manhugs will confirm and put the question to bed. Even when we get our arms around each other and squeeze, we NEVER break a rib unless the other guy is woefully infirm, in which case you usually get a "Get off my you big ape" from the squirty little 65y.o dude.

In short, it would be an extremely rare woman capable of breaking a healthy adult male's rib via hugging. She would need to be very long armed, flat chested and of course massively strong.

Gonna get freaky this year if the wife decides to cut this down. Sitting at 190 here at 5’6.

Fuuuuck!!she is a beast 🔥🔥🔥🔥

My wife is an amateur bodybuilder (10 years now), 5'-7", 175 lbs, and she benches 155 for 12 reps. For women in general the chest is their weakest muscle group. Now, back, biceps, legs, she can kill it.

I would be shocked if Caitlin could do more than 115 lbs for real reps.

Very fair assessment.

From the first hit on Google: "An untrained woman who weighs 165 pounds can typically bench press around 80 pounds. A novice female lifter of the same weight can often bench press around 95 pounds. An intermediate female lifter of the same weight can typically bench press around 115 pounds."

Clark's arms are much longer than most women, which reduces the amount she can bench. Kevin Durant infamously failed to bench 185 for a single rep (every other player at the NBA combine squeezed out at least one rep). I'd guess Clark could do 95 lbs, but I wouldn't be surprised if she couldn't or if she could do 115.

It's false to say longer arms make you weaker. Tendons are connected at locations that ensure similar leverage no matter your height.

Yeah this is the kind of low-effort fantasizing more suited to the chat than the forums...

To steer this in a more interesting direction:

Is any woman strong enough to hug someone so hard that something breaks? Or would that require a superhuman amount of force?

(I have no idea, haven't really thought about it)

Hmmm, so from my experience on HBC:

1. Scrumptious crushes basketballs in bearhugs on the regular in her shows. They seem relatively cheap ones (those without inner casing, not sure what's it called), but that still seems very hard to do normally. At first I thought it must be some sort of gimmick, but I never seen anything suspicious. She shows the ball before and her hands are always visible.
2. CurvyMuscleSensation did some shows at some point with a guy Nick. They would do anything, but refused to do bearhugs because they said she broke one of his ribs at some point doing it. Really did not seem like they were lying (nor would have had any reason to) and in a different show on new year's eve she told her friend about it (I forgot her HBC username, but another extremely popular FBB and cannot mention real names).

So I think ribs are 100% possible and it probably does not take that much force anyway. In a bearhug there is a lot of pressure coming from your own weight if you're being lifted up. If you're being bearhugged from behind and the hands are placed around the lower ribs, there may well be enough force to break those ribs, even if you're not being bearhugged by someone extremely strong.

Backs I'd say no way if you're a healthy male (in the sense of not suffering of any bone disease or something like that).

There are two different questions now. About breaking backs I can't say, but ribs are a different matter.

Here again the real answer is opposite to what most would expect. It's surprisingly easy if you do the right (or wrong) things. Both the Heimlich maneuver and CPR can result in broken ribs, so as a fantasy about someone's superhuman strength it simply fails.

As fantasies go, there are very few ones that are possible for an incredibly strong person but impossible for an average athletic person. Maybe lifting someone overhead and then smashing him down. Usually any fantasy turns very quickly from being about her ability to do it to her willingness to do it. From being strong enough to do whatever to having the psycho mindset to playfully enjoy hurting men.

Likewise, men don't accidentally end up being crushed, mauled, splintered and fractured by women. The fantasy really runs on him having the right yang to her yin. Once you lose that, the probability of a woman taking your lights out goes nowhere from the near zero it's always been, but it just does not feel attractive anymore.

Also, never ask ChatGPT anything without verifying the answer. It literally does not know anything. It combines bits of text from all over the Internet and then checks them for some form of grammatical correctness. By sheer luck it may get something right, but you have no way of knowing when it has happened.

Wasn't there a video of her crushing an unopened beer can?

With that demonstration of power I think she, at the very least, can crush a forearm with just her grip.

I once had Tifani Wittman crush an unopened can with one hand in a session on HBC. She had a tougher time crushing an apple with one hand though. But she did do it. Either way, she'd clearly have the strength to crack a rib of two.

This is irrelevant. Someone who is 6'10" could be stronger than someone who is 5'4" and still not bench as much. This is because a person with longer limbs needs to push the weight further in order to complete a rep.

That's essentially why I'm not impressed when I see those girls that arch their back to ridiculous proportions with only the tips of their shoulders on the bench. Then they bench press a heavy weight up and down a couple of inches. No doubt they're strong, and so many people argue for the arch as legit, but you know what? I'm not buying it. Let's see a REAL bench press!

Tragic. Rip.

https://www.gannikus.de/news/ifbb-pro-sarah-k...

Yes.

those legs could pop a melon so easily

My wife is an amateur bodybuilder (10 years now), 5'-7", 175 lbs, and she benches 155 for 12 reps. For women in general the chest is their weakest muscle group. Now, back, biceps, legs, she can kill it.

I would be shocked if Caitlin could do more than 115 lbs for real reps.

This is irrelevant. Someone who is 6'10" could be stronger than someone who is 5'4" and still not bench as much. This is because a person with longer limbs needs to push the weight further in order to complete a rep.

Bingo! The absolute correct response. I was about to post the same thing until I saw Dashiprock's comment.

Gonna get freaky this year if the wife decides to cut this down. Sitting at 190 here at 5’6.