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Hear me out. A gym just for female fitness and bodybuilding influencers and competitors. The gym would pay the women to train, but they would have to agree to wear skimpy 2 piece sports bras and be filmed their entire workout. Gyms would be in major cities with a lot of muscular women. The gyms would make money by having people subscribe to watch the workouts either in real time or recordings. The women get paid to workout, and save on gym fees. We get to watch them workout. Everyone wins. Curious for opinions on the concept.
Your idea is historically bad.
You should, however, program a computer game in BASIC to run your scenarios. No one would pay you for it, but some guys would try it out.
Your idea is historically bad.
You should, however, program a computer game in BASIC to run your scenarios. No one would pay you for it, but some guys would try it out.
Ok, not exactly constructive but could you explain why it’s “historically bad? I am happy to understand where this doesn’t work.
In my head the business case is: Let’s say 3-5 subscribers at $40-60/month for every 1 woman who joins. This is basically how gyms already work, gyms make most of their money from people who don’t go
The women would get free membership, and paid a small set rate plus a share of profits based on viewership.
Women already film themselves working out, (and in minimal clothing) why not get a free gym membership plus a small payment to do it? And gyms are starting to crack down on people filming in them anyways
Men are already paying $40 and more a month for mostly mediocre content on onlyfans.
It’s not fully baked but I think there’s something here. Theres demand for content and there are plenty of creators.
Ok, not exactly constructive but could you explain why it’s “historically bad? I am happy to understand where this doesn’t work.
In my head the business case is: Let’s say 3-5 subscribers at $40-60/month for every 1 woman who joins. This is basically how gyms already work, gyms make most of their money from people who don’t go
The women would get free membership, and paid a small set rate plus a share of profits based on viewership.
Women already film themselves working out, (and in minimal clothing) why not get a free gym membership plus a small payment to do it? And gyms are starting to crack down on people filming in them anyways
Men are already paying $40 and more a month for mostly mediocre content on onlyfans.
It’s not fully baked but I think there’s something here. Theres demand for content and there are plenty of creators.
Ok well then you go ahead and work the logistics and business strategy. Be sure to have a great PR and legal counsel…..
These are one of the times where someone needs to be told how creepy their idea sounds. You have done absolutely no marketing research to even suggest that your idea is even lucrative enough aside from looking at other unrelated markets. You have done no research or understanding of laws and policies because this sounds like a legal nightmare for you.
Lastly, women are people. Yes we all discuss our attractions about them here openly, but let’s not forget they are people, not objects.
There is demand for content, but the demand is for free content and that demand is largely met by various sites online. No one is paying money to watch hot muscle women work out when it’s free to do that elsewhere.
And the hottest of the lot, the 0.1% combination of muscle and hotness, are already streaming their own content for more money which you would be able to offer.
Also, watching people work out is boring.
In addition to being very creepy, in no world is this "business model" sustainable. Legal issues aside:
Muscular women (and by muscular I mean muscular enough to make it on this site) and fitness influencers represent a tiny, tiny, TINY amount of the overall population of women who train. Social media might make it look like there's lots of them, but that's the algorithm giving you confirmation bias. Gyms, especially in major cities, are expensive to run. Equipment costs a lot, insurance costs a lot, and rent is high.
Large big box gyms profit from most gym goers not regularly going because they are able to attract the sheer numbers to do that. You’re not going to make that happen in a “gym” like this. Also, how, look wise, would this gym determine if someone is “muscular” enough? What if they get injured? Go off prep for a bulk? Get pregnant? Decide to go off PEDs? Are they not allowed to train anymore if they don’t maintain a certain “look”. The whole thing sounds shitty.
Everyone wins
Lol, that's pure schmoe logic. And like H3rcules said, stop treating women like objects.
Ok, not exactly constructive but could you explain why it’s “historically bad? I am happy to understand where this doesn’t work.
In my head the business case is: Let’s say 3-5 subscribers at $40-60/month for every 1 woman who joins. This is basically how gyms already work, gyms make most of their money from people who don’t go
The women would get free membership, and paid a small set rate plus a share of profits based on viewership.
Women already film themselves working out, (and in minimal clothing) why not get a free gym membership plus a small payment to do it? And gyms are starting to crack down on people filming in them anyways
Men are already paying $40 and more a month for mostly mediocre content on onlyfans.
It’s not fully baked but I think there’s something here. Theres demand for content and there are plenty of creators.
My prior response was constructive - I gave you a legitimately viable product to create!
There's nothing to bake.
First of all, you don't own a gym. So, you're not in position to give anyone a "free membership" to anything. If you want to pay for a membership, the cheapest options are typically Crunch or Planet Fitness, so you're looking at $12/month per person, plus the $40-50 annual assess, so averaged out over a year means another $4/month. So, $16/month minimum just to get your talent into the gym.
Secondly, you don't own x number of apartments/homes for them to live in and you don't have a budget to pay for their relocation expenses to your town, let alone to pay for their housing.
Third, since you'd be operating a commercial enterprise in someone else's space, using their equipment and relying on the coverage of their insurance, etc. you're going to have to pay a usage fee. These will vary, but they're not cheap. Let's saying you get a bulk rate of $50/day to coverage all your models. That's $1500/month you've got to come up with.
Let me just stop there. Your post gives off the vibe of you being a masochist who wants to be picked on.
My prior response was constructive - I gave you a legitimately viable product to create!
There's nothing to bake.
First of all, you don't own a gym. So, you're not in position to give anyone a "free membership" to anything. If you want to pay for a membership, the cheapest options are typically Crunch or Planet Fitness, so you're looking at $12/month per person, plus the $40-50 annual assess, so averaged out over a year means another $4/month. So, $16/month minimum just to get your talent into the gym.
Secondly, you don't own x number of apartments/homes for them to live in and you don't have a budget to pay for their relocation expenses to your town, let alone to pay for their housing.
Third, since you'd be operating a commercial enterprise in someone else's space, using their equipment and relying on the coverage of their insurance, etc. you're going to have to pay a usage fee. These will vary, but they're not cheap. Let's saying you get a bulk rate of $50/day to coverage all your models. That's $1500/month you've got to come up with.
Let me just stop there. Your post gives off the vibe of you being a masochist who wants to be picked on.
Yeah, so all this is belligerent. This isn’t someone asking to be picked on. I thought I’d share a thought I had,” amongst people with similar interests, then when I received short answers I asked for some info. I’m not arguing more, let’s leave it here. The idea was to open an actual gym, not to do some weird housing concept. I get that women aren’t objects but also let’s be honest, this content already exists on social media, onlyfans and paysites. I don’t appreciate your tone when I only asked clarity on your point kindly. Maybe take some time to reflect on how I approached you vs how you approached me. I respect your opinions, because I realize that I may not see a bigger picture (which is why I created the thread in the first place) but remember, delivery matters.
Imagine a world where this kind of gym is the default, and then someone comes up with an idea to run a gym where all you have to do is pay $50 per month and in exchange you can work out in peace in whatever clothes you want knowing that people aren't ogling and judging you on video. All the women would be there in a heartbeat.
Edit: Maybe you'd be able to get women for this gym if you paid them a good salary, I'm thinking on the order of at least $100K/year or so.
still a bad idea but what if we just get past the façade and make a strip club with maybe some work out equipment that only has muscular women there they will work out totally nude and it will be live streamed. since the women who would sign up for your idea probably are the types that are going to be interested into sex work anyway . and more prudish ones will never sign up for your idea regardless. but i think even this is a waste of money since they can just do that at home .
So you've all shot the guy for his idea, but is it really as stupid as you all say it is?
There are no legal issues, assuming that he wasn't planning to base it in Saudi Arabia or some Bible Belt hick town. He isn't wanting them to be sex workers. He doesn't even want them to be naked. He wants them to wear "skimpy 2 piece sports bras". So a sports bra and tight running shorts like female competitive runners wear. Is that really an outrageous request?
He doesn't even want women who like privacy. He specifically says "influencers and competitors", so people who are used to/make their living from showing off in public.
He is proposing to pay these women to be filmed as they workout, rather than then have to pay a gym membership. What is the difference between influencers being gifted revealing clothes, by clothing companies and then filming themselves wearing them and showing that to their followers, to influence them to buy those clothes? That happens all the time in the influencing world.
The criticism of his subscription model is unfair. Subscription models work. Chaturbate and OnlyFans prove that. There would also be advertising and an income stream from that. 70% of porn site income comes from advertising. 20% from subscriptions. 10% from games. The global porn industry is worth $100 billion and growing. The USA porn industry is worth more than the NFL.
The only issue is with the "female bodybuilders and competitors". There may not be enough of them close to the gym. "Female fitness", I assume ordinary gym fit women, who are not bodybuilders would be no problem at all. You would easily fill it with university/college students. Many of those are on Chaturbate, OF and other similar sites, or are in some other area of the sex industry to pay for college. The proposal here is nothing like as seedy as any of that work.
Why would the rent, insurance etc. be excessive? It doesn't have to be a massive gym. No one is expecting to log on and watch 50 women in the gym at any one time. Lots of gyms go bust regularly. There is plenty of used equipment for sale in auctions. Camera equipment is cheap now.
The big hurdle and the big cost which none of you have mentioned is marketing and promotion. To get subscribers to the channel, then people would have to know that the gym and the channel existed. Promoting it is expensive.
As for the - they can do it in their own bedroom, yes they can, but how do you find them and how can they earn money if no one knows they exist?
Where do most of the pics posted to this site come from? They are not taken secretly in gyms are they? Look at Olivia Dunne whose pic someone has posted today, posing for Sports Illustrated. Look at the location. Look at the pose. Look at what she is wearing. Why wouldn't she for example be interested in being filmed in that gym and being paid to do so and being able to use the gym for free wearing that outfit. What's the difference between posing in it in that location and being filmed in a gym, working out in it?
So you've all shot the guy for his idea, but is it really as stupid as you all say it is?
There are no legal issues, assuming that he wasn't planning to base it in Saudi Arabia or some Bible Belt hick town. He isn't wanting them to be sex workers. He doesn't even want them to be naked. He wants them to wear "skimpy 2 piece sports bras". So a sports bra and tight running shorts like female competitive runners wear. Is that really an outrageous request?
He doesn't even want women who like privacy. He specifically says "influencers and competitors", so people who are used to/make their living from showing off in public.
He is proposing to pay these women to be filmed as they workout, rather than then have to pay a gym membership. What is the difference between influencers being gifted revealing clothes, by clothing companies and then filming themselves wearing them and showing that to their followers, to influence them to buy those clothes? That happens all the time in the influencing world.
The criticism of his subscription model is unfair. Subscription models work. Chaturbate and OnlyFans prove that. There would also be advertising and an income stream from that. 70% of porn site income comes from advertising. 20% from subscriptions. 10% from games. The global porn industry is worth $100 billion and growing. The USA porn industry is worth more than the NFL.
The only issue is with the "female bodybuilders and competitors". There may not be enough of them close to the gym. "Female fitness", I assume ordinary gym fit women, who are not bodybuilders would be no problem at all. You would easily fill it with university/college students. Many of those are on Chaturbate, OF and other similar sites, or are in some other area of the sex industry to pay for college. The proposal here is nothing like as seedy as any of that work.
Why would the rent, insurance etc. be excessive? It doesn't have to be a massive gym. No one is expecting to log on and watch 50 women in the gym at any one time. Lots of gyms go bust regularly. There is plenty of used equipment for sale in auctions. Camera equipment is cheap now.
The big hurdle and the big cost which none of you have mentioned is marketing and promotion. To get subscribers to the channel, then people would have to know that the gym and the channel existed. Promoting it is expensive.
As for the - they can do it in their own bedroom, yes they can, but how do you find them and how can they earn money if no one knows they exist?
Where do most of the pics posted to this site come from? They are not taken secretly in gyms are they? Look at Olivia Dunne whose pic someone has posted today, posing for Sports Illustrated. Look at the location. Look at the pose. Look at what she is wearing. Why wouldn't she for example be interested in being filmed in that gym and being paid to do so and being able to use the gym for free wearing that outfit. What's the difference between posing in it in that location and being filmed in a gym, working out in it?
He has:
no budget no location no sponsors no models
1 likely subscriber
If OP posts this same topic in the Story/Fantasy section, the responses he gets are completely different, guaranteed.
How much would you be willing to pay for the product he's offering?
So you've all shot the guy for his idea, but is it really as stupid as you all say it is?
There are no legal issues, assuming that he wasn't planning to base it in Saudi Arabia or some Bible Belt hick town. He isn't wanting them to be sex workers. He doesn't even want them to be naked. He wants them to wear "skimpy 2 piece sports bras". So a sports bra and tight running shorts like female competitive runners wear. Is that really an outrageous request?
He doesn't even want women who like privacy. He specifically says "influencers and competitors", so people who are used to/make their living from showing off in public.
He is proposing to pay these women to be filmed as they workout, rather than then have to pay a gym membership. What is the difference between influencers being gifted revealing clothes, by clothing companies and then filming themselves wearing them and showing that to their followers, to influence them to buy those clothes? That happens all the time in the influencing world.
The criticism of his subscription model is unfair. Subscription models work. Chaturbate and OnlyFans prove that. There would also be advertising and an income stream from that. 70% of porn site income comes from advertising. 20% from subscriptions. 10% from games. The global porn industry is worth $100 billion and growing. The USA porn industry is worth more than the NFL.
The only issue is with the "female bodybuilders and competitors". There may not be enough of them close to the gym. "Female fitness", I assume ordinary gym fit women, who are not bodybuilders would be no problem at all. You would easily fill it with university/college students. Many of those are on Chaturbate, OF and other similar sites, or are in some other area of the sex industry to pay for college. The proposal here is nothing like as seedy as any of that work.
Why would the rent, insurance etc. be excessive? It doesn't have to be a massive gym. No one is expecting to log on and watch 50 women in the gym at any one time. Lots of gyms go bust regularly. There is plenty of used equipment for sale in auctions. Camera equipment is cheap now.
The big hurdle and the big cost which none of you have mentioned is marketing and promotion. To get subscribers to the channel, then people would have to know that the gym and the channel existed. Promoting it is expensive.
As for the - they can do it in their own bedroom, yes they can, but how do you find them and how can they earn money if no one knows they exist?
Where do most of the pics posted to this site come from? They are not taken secretly in gyms are they? Look at Olivia Dunne whose pic someone has posted today, posing for Sports Illustrated. Look at the location. Look at the pose. Look at what she is wearing. Why wouldn't she for example be interested in being filmed in that gym and being paid to do so and being able to use the gym for free wearing that outfit. What's the difference between posing in it in that location and being filmed in a gym, working out in it?
Thank you! Someone gets it. This is for influencers and competitors and models. I betcha gyms in NY Miami or LA already plenty women that fit this. I’m just thinking a gym dedicated to women’s fitness and bodybuilding content.
He has:
no budget no location no sponsors no models
1 likely subscriber
If OP posts this same topic in the Story/Fantasy section, the responses he gets are completely different, guaranteed.
How much would you be willing to pay for the product he's offering?
If I had those things how would you feel? How do you know what I have? It’s just an idea, Im not doing this tomorrow.
Most people who set up a business have none of those things either. They just have an idea. That's why banks, venture capitalists, backers, and investors exist. The current King of England set up The Princes Trust when he was the Prince of Wales to help start-up businesses. The Apprentice TV show in the UK is no longer about taking on an apprentice, it's about Lord Alan Sugar going into business with someone who has an idea and investing £250,000 of Sugar's money into that business.
There is also a TV show in the UK called Dragons' Den, where people with business ideas pitch them to a panel of investors, in the hope of securing an investment from one or more of the panel, who takes a share of the business. There have been some very successful investments made as a result of that show. One guy called Levi Roots had a idea for a food sauce. He pitched, won investment, and the business is now worth £30 million. He is so famous he is currently appearing in another TV show, Celebrity Big Brother.
I think that was a pile on.
Granted not without it's issues there could be something here. OnlyFans sells content WITHOUT letting you see it and guys line up for it because sex sells baby. THAT's the craziest business model I've EVER seen.....but it seems to be working. This seems like it's basically a chaturbate idea but situated in a gym. Some of the big name FBB's have done stuff like this in the past already. Maybe if they recorded an hour and you could buy it or broadcast it once in awhile as a special to what's being broadcast during the week.
Not saying I'm ponying up for it but stranger things are already out there.
Not even going to explain why your idea is extremely bad. If your conviction is high, try it, but this just doesn't sound plausible.
So you've all shot the guy for his idea, but is it really as stupid as you all say it is?
There are no legal issues, assuming that he wasn't planning to base it in Saudi Arabia or some Bible Belt hick town. He isn't wanting them to be sex workers. He doesn't even want them to be naked. He wants them to wear "skimpy 2 piece sports bras". So a sports bra and tight running shorts like female competitive runners wear. Is that really an outrageous request?
He doesn't even want women who like privacy. He specifically says "influencers and competitors", so people who are used to/make their living from showing off in public.
He is proposing to pay these women to be filmed as they workout, rather than then have to pay a gym membership. What is the difference between influencers being gifted revealing clothes, by clothing companies and then filming themselves wearing them and showing that to their followers, to influence them to buy those clothes? That happens all the time in the influencing world.
The criticism of his subscription model is unfair. Subscription models work. Chaturbate and OnlyFans prove that. There would also be advertising and an income stream from that. 70% of porn site income comes from advertising. 20% from subscriptions. 10% from games. The global porn industry is worth $100 billion and growing. The USA porn industry is worth more than the NFL.
The only issue is with the "female bodybuilders and competitors". There may not be enough of them close to the gym. "Female fitness", I assume ordinary gym fit women, who are not bodybuilders would be no problem at all. You would easily fill it with university/college students. Many of those are on Chaturbate, OF and other similar sites, or are in some other area of the sex industry to pay for college. The proposal here is nothing like as seedy as any of that work.
Why would the rent, insurance etc. be excessive? It doesn't have to be a massive gym. No one is expecting to log on and watch 50 women in the gym at any one time. Lots of gyms go bust regularly. There is plenty of used equipment for sale in auctions. Camera equipment is cheap now.
The big hurdle and the big cost which none of you have mentioned is marketing and promotion. To get subscribers to the channel, then people would have to know that the gym and the channel existed. Promoting it is expensive.
As for the - they can do it in their own bedroom, yes they can, but how do you find them and how can they earn money if no one knows they exist?
Where do most of the pics posted to this site come from? They are not taken secretly in gyms are they? Look at Olivia Dunne whose pic someone has posted today, posing for Sports Illustrated. Look at the location. Look at the pose. Look at what she is wearing. Why wouldn't she for example be interested in being filmed in that gym and being paid to do so and being able to use the gym for free wearing that outfit. What's the difference between posing in it in that location and being filmed in a gym, working out in it?
There are so many things wrong with your assumptions. You are obviously a lawyer, accountant, or marketer. If you were, you would tread caution in businesses that would impact your career through association. The businesses you mentioned are tech based businesses that provide its creators the platform to establish where ever they wish.
As far as this idea, women already have safe spaces in gyms like women’s only section. There are female only gyms as well, Curves being a top example. The thing is most of those gyms take great care to provide a safe environment for its members.
The OP is not proposing this in good faith. It appears as a fantasy idea and not a well thought business proposition. People are criticizing the idea because of how ludicrous it sounds. Imagine being an investor and listening to this proposal or a manager asking how to increase revenue by venturing into a new market. I’m saying this as a marketing analyst.
Can this be done? Sure, but this idea is nowhere near taking into account the contributing variables. Everyone else is pointing it out; nothing more. I’m all for interesting ideas, but they have to be sound in conception. I would not touch this idea with a ten foot pole because of the headaches it sounds like it would draw. Hope that clears up the confusion.
I think other people have touched on this, but it would be a bore-fest. Most gym time isn't spent lifting. Do I really want to watch Vladi adjust machine settings, move plates, or play on her phone? If it's Vladi, maybe once, but then I'm out. Most fitness influencers already post workout videos of actual sets, so I don't need to sit through the down/setup time. There's a reason nobody sells or commonly posts unedited workouts. It'd be an easy way to produce content, but there's no demand.
That also raises another point. What exactly would you be able to see? Unless there's a dedicated camera at each machine/station that you could select, it'd be like watching security cam footage. And if you did, it still wouldn't get you the closeups that a cameraman would capture. I just don't see the appeal over the mountain of free content along these lines already out there.
Most people who set up a business have none of those things either. They just have an idea. That's why banks, venture capitalists, backers, and investors exist.
That is completely inaccurate. While yes, financial institutions and investors do loan money for people to start businesses, those people need to have some capital to start off with, and a concept that said investors feel like they can get some benefit in. They're not going to go lend money to someone with no capital, no realistic business plan and an idea that only caters to a very niche audience.
I think other people have touched on this, but it would be a bore-fest. Most gym time isn't spent lifting. Do I really want to watch Vladi adjust machine settings, move plates, or play on her phone? If it's Vladi, maybe once, but then I'm out. Most fitness influencers already post workout videos of actual sets, so I don't need to sit through the down/setup time. There's a reason nobody sells or commonly posts unedited workouts. It'd be an easy way to produce content, but there's no demand.
Spot on. Also, fitness influencers are very meticulous about the content that they put out and insure that it is curated to only show the image that they want you to see. Very few, if any, would be ok with unedited gym streaming because that means there are more variables that they cannot control. They may not want their audience to see what they do when they're resting between sets, or doing basic warmup stuff, or fail a lift or be forced to lower the weight on the barbell or whatever. Another thing to keep in mind is that a lot of influencers only want to film certain kinds of workouts and not others. For example, I know a small time influencer (10K followers on IG,) who does two distinct kinds of workouts. She will do her regular workouts (lots of interval work and heavy compound lifts) with the majority of it unfilmed, and then she will do her "filmed content" workouts which involve "sexier" moves (think hip thrusts, adductor machine, etc) done with low weight and with multiple takes to get the right shot.
Why would the rent, insurance etc. be excessive? It doesn't have to be a massive gym. No one is expecting to log on and watch 50 women in the gym at any one time. Lots of gyms go bust regularly. There is plenty of used equipment for sale in auctions. Camera equipment is cheap now.
Have you seen how expensive real estate is in major cities? One of the CrossFit gyms I went to was in what was probably formerly a small restaurant, and even with a large (for a CrossFit gym) membership along with higher than average membership costs, the owner still eventually shot down after consistently losing money since COVID. You can get cheap cameras, but you'll definitely get what you pay for, and if you skimp on that, people are not going to tune in to low-quality feeds. Premium audio-visual equipment is an investment, and the same goes for gym equipment. And insurance for gyms like that cost a lot as well.
And finally, something that I don't think anyone else has touched on is the fact that there are a good chunk of fitness competitors out there who DON'T want their own craft promoted in a sexual manner. They may be clothed and it may not be pornographic, but the ladies aren't stupid when they see that one of the requirements is to wear revealing clothing. Not all athletes and even influencers want their content to be sexualized, and that's going to cut down on your supply even more.
As far as this idea, women already have safe spaces in gyms like women’s only section. There are female only gyms as well, Curves being a top example. The thing is most of those gyms take great care to provide a safe environment for its members.
Exactly, and you also think about how bad it would look from a PR perspective. You may not care about what others think, but opening an actual gym that basically says "you can only train here if you are a hot woman and only if you wear revealing clothing while being filmed for men" is gonna invite loads of scrutiny. Doing special shoots at a hardcore gym or someone's private home or a studio is one thing, but having a whole facility with such a restrictive business model is unsustainable and will draw bad PR.
And finally, I have worked in customer service and dispute resolution for years, and EVERY customer who has ever used the phrase "everybody wins!" has preceded that with a completely inane idea or request.
Not trying to add to the pile on, but this really doesn't sound feasible for a lot of reasons.
A lot of women are going to be turned off by the idea of having a dress requirement for their gym, and being oogled during their workout. you'll get some sure- but assuming you're starting off in a single location in a single city- I think you'd be struggling to get the quantity and quality of models producing enough content to pull in enough subsribers to pay for the incredible costs you are likely to incur. Another issue standing in the way of you getting in enough models producing enough content is that my perception is that the majority of them train with a male coach. If their coach isn't allowed in, that's going to further restrict how many women are interested, since they'll still need to go to another gym at least some of the time. Even the ones that don't mind are going to be doing some of their content-producing workouts at your competition, lowering your value to them and decreasing how much you're able to produce at the same time.
If you're not only offering a free membership, but paying the women to work out there- how do you see that working? Are they given a flat rate, or per workout/content? If it's the first one, you are going to run into the problem of women who will work out once a month and collect their pay- leaving you with a dearth of new content, but still forking out salary. If it's per-workout or something along those lines, you are likely going run into women who will game that system where they do so many workouts low-value workouts there, that you have to pay them a lot more than what they are likely brining in for you.
Also, since you're paying them, you're now their employer, which opens you up to all kinds of legal and probably tax issues that would accompany this. I would guess not impossible, given that both hooters and strip clubs exist, but I have not detected any kind of business savvy in this thread that would lead me to believe you're prepared to navigate that mess; I apologize if that comes off insulting, I'm just trying to give a constructive assessment, I could be absolutely wrong.
Finally, this site IS your audience, essentially. If THIS crowd is, by a significant margin, telling you to pump the brakes because it is creepy and unsustainable- how palatable do you think this would be to the general public, or the women you want to bring in? The vibe I am getting is that this is a very much something that you WANT to see, and as a result you're being a little dismissive or willing to overlook some very valid points that have been brought to your attention. You can take your shot if you'd like to, but I think it would be better to recognize this as a fantasy.
Hear me out. A gym just for female fitness and bodybuilding influencers and competitors. The gym would pay the women to train, but they would have to agree to wear skimpy 2 piece sports bras and be filmed their entire workout. Gyms would be in major cities with a lot of muscular women. The gyms would make money by having people subscribe to watch the workouts either in real time or recordings. The women get paid to workout, and save on gym fees. We get to watch them workout. Everyone wins. Curious for opinions on the concept.