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Mar 07, 2022 - edited Mar 07, 2022 - permalink

Who would be able to live with a hardcore fbb while being a non bb? They got a completely different lifestyle to the point that it wont last over the long term? I spoke with one fbb once and she told me that we just fantasize but wouldnt want to stay with her forever. Another one told me she went thru a lot of plastic surgery too and thats why she was having sessions as this was costly. Who shares or has shared his life with a fbb but being a normal man? Should this just stay a fantasy with only sessions at best? I'm not talking about what society think about it but more on the lifestyle itself and its daily life implications. I'm talking massive roided fbb here of course which automatically means practically no chance to have this happening in reality.

Mar 07, 2022 - permalink

I mean, it depends on the person.

Sure, you are attracted to muscular women and/or hardcore bodybuilders, and while yes, there is a lifestyle compatibility because they live very regimented lifestyles in terms of training, nutrition and recovery (which explains why they often go for bodybuilders when it comes to relationships,) looks are only a small part of the equation. Outside of looks, what else do they have to offer in a relationship? Do you have similar values, similar goals in terms of whether you want kids or not, do you get along with each others’ personalities, and so forth. I think a lot of people like us who are attracted to muscular women fantasize hardcore about what it would be like to date one, which is fine, but when you strip away how they look…what do you get? Also, it seems like a lot also enjoy the fantasy of them being dominant, whereas in reality, it’s very possible that they are not (and the only act that way because they know that’s what sells.)

As for me personality, I don’t bodybuild, and I don’t take PEDs, but I am involved in strength sports, work out six days a week (sometimes twice a day) and I maintain a clean diet. So the lifestyle is not an issue, but like I said, there is so much more to it than just that.

Mar 07, 2022 - edited Mar 07, 2022 - permalink

If you're talking super huge jacked bodybuilder, I have never lived this but from what I've heard it needs to stay in fantasy. I think in order to get to the level you're talking about there is a level of drive (and the perhaps the worse way of putting it would be mental illness/problems) that leads to this sort of thing. The plastic surgery to the level that you can't afford it and have to go do sessions with random men in hotels...well that might be a red flag. Not to down the women that do it. I'm sure a lot of them know exactly what they are doing. It's like strippers. They aren't all putting themselves through college.

I remember one guy talking about dating I think it was Tatianna butler but I'm not sure but basically the take away was they can be a little nuts.

Like I said though. This has never happened to me. I'm totally talking out of my ass. Just an idea from stuff I've heard over the years. I think you're sweet spot would find yourself a girl that power lifts or does crossfit for health and fitness and maybe competes at local shows because they enjoy it.

cgsweat
Mar 07, 2022 - permalink

If you're talking about a long term relationship then the answer is simple. For it to work you have to be attracted to more than just her looks (her body), which is the same that can be said for any relationship. You would also have to be willing to support her lifestyle (I don't necessarily mean financially but it helps), in other words if you're not going to venture into bodybuilding yourself, you could at least help her along her journey. The best relationships occur when both people are supportive of each other.

Having said that, the chances of finding a FBB willing to date or live with the average schmoe are next to none. You would have to have some serious charm to get her attention.

Mar 07, 2022 - edited Mar 07, 2022 - permalink

Yes like i said i've never seen the hardcore fbb in real. One of the girl on this site used to be a trainer at my previous gym. She was big but nothing compared to the fbb I meant. I have a gf who trains regularly to stay in shape and get some mass too so i'm good in this case. I was only wondering if anyone here had a experience like that and if they could share it. Agreed on the hardcore fbb some of them seem to have some body image issue. And then many fbbs are on cams or porn websites too so i dont think people are interested on the long term with them neither

Mar 07, 2022 - permalink

If you're talking about a long term relationship then the answer is simple. For it to work you have to be attracted to more than just her looks (her body), which is the same that can be said for any relationship. You would also have to be willing to support her lifestyle (I don't necessarily mean financially but it helps), in other words if you're not going to venture into bodybuilding yourself, you could at least help her along her journey. The best relationships occur when both people are supportive of each other.

Having said that, the chances of finding a FBB willing to date or live with the average schmoe are next to none. You would have to have some serious charm to get her attention.

I mean most men would be supportive of his gf as long as it is not beyond his capacity. Why would a fbb be attracted only by other bb if not for the same lifestyle or because they met at the gym. For sure it creates bonds

Mar 07, 2022 - permalink

I mean most men would be supportive of his gf as long as it is not beyond his capacity. Why would a fbb be attracted only by other bb if not for the same lifestyle or because they met at the gym. For sure it creates bonds

You’d be surprised. There are unfortunately guys out there who, whether it’s due to insecurity, jealousy or just being a plain dick, do not support what their partner does as either a profession or an amateur hobby. That definitely becomes more pronounced if they want to cam/start an OF.

Mar 08, 2022 - permalink

Who would be able to live with a hardcore fbb while being a non bb?

I couldn't. Personally I admire what they do, but I also know you have to be a little insane and obsessed to live that lifestyle. I couldn't marry someone who couldn't eat normal meals, spent 4 hours a day at the gym and went through crazy mood swings due to dieting and steroids. No thanks.

I'd much rather be with a naturally strong woman who lifts heavy and has some wrestling background or even horseback riding for that inner thigh strength, but can live a normal lifestyle and doesn't attract and absurd amount of attention everywhere she goes in public.

Mar 08, 2022 - permalink

Well Its possible And i Have seen a few cases of strong women dateing weaker men and having long relationships

but its super řare you neēd to be šo lucky you May as well try winning The lottery not Only Are fbbs So rare i Have never even seen one in person in my 26 years of being Alive (i know still Young) but you also Have to find one that has difrerent tastes than most women šo i mean i can Hope it Will happen one day but i assume it Will not And i should just try to get a wife Who Is not Věry strong.

Mar 08, 2022 - permalink

I'm absolutely obsessed with muscles. Love them on women. Love them on guys. Love them on me. I'm working out more than I ever have in my life. If an FBB needs an MBB, then damn it... I want to be that guy!

I kind of don't understand how it's possible to be so enraptured by muscular women and not want to lift and train yourself.

Mar 08, 2022 - permalink

Like other folks have said, if want to be with a FBB, you'd have to accept that she'd be in the gym consistently, eating at certain intervals (and only certain foods), and doing a lot of sleeping. If you're able to support or, at least, help support her lifestyle and can deal with everything that comes with it..cool.

One thing though. As much as cats talk about wanting to be with FBBs, if something were to happen to her where she couldn't workout to the same degree or maybe never again -- would you be willing to stick by her(given that she may never look the way you liked her to again)?

Mar 08, 2022 - permalink

The above point is the biggest. Would they stick by when they probably have to jump off the gear and deflate like a balloon as a result. Unlikely

Mar 08, 2022 - permalink

One thing though. As much as cats talk about wanting to be with FBBs, if something were to happen to her where she couldn't workout to the same degree or maybe never again -- would you be willing to stick by her(given that she may never look the way you liked her to again)?

I’m glad you brought this up.

My girlfriend does CrossFit with me, and that was something that we bonded over when we started dating. However, if something were to happen where she couldn’t train anymore, either due to injury or illness, I would still stick with her because she is so much more than just a Crossfitter. I wonder how many people on there, or how many other guys who like muscular women, would put up with complete shitheads just because they have muscle.

It also makes me think of the threads we have about women who have disappeared from the scene. While some bodybuilders are practically lifers, they tend to be in the minority. Most of those women still lift, but not to the extent of what they did when they were deep into the sport. Not to mention, PEDs can be very hard on the body if you don’t monitor your use, and with the rash of bodybuilders dying young because of them, it’s not surprising to see more ladies downsizing by getting off the drugs.

Mar 08, 2022 - permalink
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Mar 08, 2022 - permalink

I'm absolutely obsessed with muscles. Love them on women. Love them on guys. Love them on me. I'm working out more than I ever have in my life. If an FBB needs an MBB, then damn it... I want to be that guy!

I kind of don't understand how it's possible to be so enraptured by muscular women and not want to lift and train yourself.

There’s a saying in bodybuilding, and in pretty much any sport or highly-skilled discipline: “If it were easy, everyone would be a bodybuilder/etc”

Doing actual strength work in the gym for bodybuilding, powerlifting, CrossFit or the like takes a lot of hard work and discipline. I don’t mean dudes who dick around in the gym three days a week. Rather, following an actual training and diet program takes a lot of effort, and it’s something that many people, including dudes who are attracted to buff women, just don’t want to do. It’s also why people who lose weight AND KEEP IT OFF are so rare. Yes, you can do anything in the short term, but what really matters is long-term sustainability.

At the risk of sounding a bit judgmental, from my experience, the impression I get from a lot of schmoes is that they want to get with a muscular woman, but they don’t want to put any effort into taking the steps that’s best maximizes their chances. There have been numerous threads on here from guys asking how to meet and date female bodybuilders, and they usually ask what apps they use or what bars they go to. Meanwhile, I, and other people on this forum who are in relationships with muscular women, tell them that they need to get involved in their fitness communities, network in them (that means being friendly and approachable to both the men and women) and give it time. But it seems like our advice always falls on deaf ears. They don’t want to get involved in their communities, they don’t want to go to shows and competitions, they don’t want to lift and eat clean, and instead they want to do the same things they have done in that past, like DMing girls on Instagram, hoping that somehow it will work this time.

I lift primarily because I love it, and I love being muscular and fit myself. But I would be lying if I said that I didn’t have any motivation from a desire to be more attractive to muscular women. You don’t have to be a roided out bodybuilder to get with them, but you need to live that fit lifestyle.

cgsweat
Mar 08, 2022 - permalink

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Mar 08, 2022 - permalink

There’s a saying in bodybuilding, and in pretty much any sport or highly-skilled discipline: “If it were easy, everyone would be a bodybuilder/etc”

Doing actual strength work in the gym for bodybuilding, powerlifting, CrossFit or the like takes a lot of hard work and discipline. I don’t mean dudes who dick around in the gym three days a week. Rather, following an actual training and diet program takes a lot of effort, and it’s something that many people, including dudes who are attracted to buff women, just don’t want to do. It’s also why people who lose weight AND KEEP IT OFF are so rare. Yes, you can do anything in the short term, but what really matters is long-term sustainability.

At the risk of sounding a bit judgmental, from my experience, the impression I get from a lot of schmoes is that they want to get with a muscular woman, but they don’t want to put any effort into taking the steps that’s best maximizes their chances. There have been numerous threads on here from guys asking how to meet and date female bodybuilders, and they usually ask what apps they use or what bars they go to. Meanwhile, I, and other people on this forum who are in relationships with muscular women, tell them that they need to get involved in their fitness communities, network in them (that means being friendly and approachable to both the men and women) and give it time. But it seems like our advice always falls on deaf ears. They don’t want to get involved in their communities, they don’t want to go to shows and competitions, they don’t want to lift and eat clean, and instead they want to do the same things they have done in that past, like DMing girls on Instagram, hoping that somehow it will work this time.

I lift primarily because I love it, and I love being muscular and fit myself. But I would be lying if I said that I didn’t have any motivation from a desire to be more attractive to muscular women. You don’t have to be a roided out bodybuilder to get with them, but you need to live that fit lifestyle.

Totally agree, couldn't have said it better myself.

I'm sure that there's a power dynamic at play. Like a lot of tiny and skinny guys are very aroused by the idea of a muscular woman physically dominating them. And that's totally cool. But if that's your scenario, then it's time to give up on this fantasy of dating or marrying a FBB. There isn't a woman on Earth who will enter a relationship to just be someone's fetish object. She wants a partner and someone she admires... not some tiny fixated dude who's only obsessed with her body.

It's like a strip club. Don't go into a strip club looking for a wife. If you want to objectify a woman for her body, then expect to pay for it if she's selling.

If you want a relationship with a muscular/athletic woman, then work on yourself and be a part of their overall world.

Mar 08, 2022 - permalink

I think you nailed it in this comment! I ve been going to the gym for over 3 years now crossfit and regular gyms, but i never saw any fbb there. Fit girls yes but never to the fbb level. I trained with them tho and it s true you create links this way so I dont really understand the guys dm ing fbbs on ig abd dont move out of the couch. after would be fun and very motivating to just train with a big fbb at the gym! Pretty sure she would have good advice too.

fp909
Mar 08, 2022 - permalink

The above point is the biggest. Would they stick by when they probably have to jump off the gear and deflate like a balloon as a result. Unlikely

hell, when I'm buying vids or pics i sometimes disappear because the look isn't what I want.

EVEN IF we were all able to date a pretty muscular woman half of us might wind up disappointed because we're so used to seeing posing that seeing the 95% rest of the time look might be "disappointing".

Mar 08, 2022 - permalink

hell, when I'm buying vids or pics i sometimes disappear because the look isn't what I want.

EVEN IF we were all able to date a pretty muscular woman half of us might wind up disappointed because we're so used to seeing posing that seeing the 95% rest of the time look might be "disappointing".

I'm even more turned on by massive fbbs in their off season where they easily reach weights above 100kg without looking fat but only buff. It makes me crazy. And also the fact they can loose like 15kg in a couple of weeks for competing is fascinating

fp909
Mar 08, 2022 - permalink

Gatsby's quote

I started lifting to find women but turned out I actually enjoy lifting.

The first gym out of college was a Gold's. In the year or so I spent there I saw a first-time figure competitor and a first or second time WPD competitor (tangentially related, too--the WPD woman ended up becoming the figure girls step-mother? lol, and her dad was an ex-Raiders linebacker).

Of course I asked the girl out after seeing her for months, more or less got ghosted, and then almost never saw her in the same time slot again.

I then moved to a crossfit gym. There were three to four athletic, muscular woman over the years. Struck out with all of them.

I'm back to the same golds. LOADS more women than before. a few that look anywhere from "decent" to "really, really good". I won't be approaching them. I see enough guys trying to chat them up all session and I don't want to be another in a long line. However, i won't turn anything down if we organically talk.

I lift, and look like I lift, and reportedly am okay looking, and still my luck has been pretty bad lol So it's a lot easier to look at things as a pragmatist instead of through the fantasy lens. Especially since i know unless she liked me A LOT she would get annoyed by asks to flex.

I will say that I wish I was kind of in a gym crew that you might see on social media where theyre always posing with each other and flexing. But that more or less requires a concerted effort to actually bodybuild, among other things.

Mar 08, 2022 - permalink

^^ I think that this is awesome.

So, I'll confess... I'm pretty muscular these days and I see fit girls at the gym a lot, but I'm just too shy to really approach them. All of my muscle girl interaction is stuff that I'm paying for (which is fine).

That said, I do closely watch guys who are successful with them. Honestly, it seems like persistence is the best approach, especially if you see them regularly. Girls of all types are naturally a bit defensive at the gym. They're there to work out and they've probably had negative experiences before.

The guys that seem to really charm these women tend to "check in" a lot. They come and give a little compliment (damn you CRUSHED that weight) or make a comment (why are they playing Taylor Swift again!?!) and don't overstay their welcome. I imagine that the small talk can lead to a coffee, can lead to a date, can lead to a relationship.

Anyway, I'm no expert and I'm also terrible at putting this advice into practice for myself, but I've definitely seen it work.

fp909
Mar 08, 2022 - permalink

i also don't talk to anyone at the gym, and i hate getting bothered. sometimes you get that guy that wants to talk a little too long and its nice but like i just wanna work lol. but that's a fault of my own, it's a feature, not a bug.

actually the girl i've been eyeing looks very focused. it's actually very attractive--does her work, doesn't look like she's out here taking videos and wasting time. i won't be in that early fo ra few weeks (hopefully, for my sanity) so many some absence will help lmao

Mar 08, 2022 - permalink

One thing though. As much as cats talk about wanting to be with FBBs, if something were to happen to her where she couldn't workout to the same degree or maybe never again -- would you be willing to stick by her(given that she may never look the way you liked her to again)?

I dig it, man. If a cat wants a groovy, foxy FBB for his old lady, he'd best get himself straight. Otherwise, it's just a bummer.

Mar 09, 2022 - permalink

Following all of this logic, if you want a girl with big tits, get yourself a boob job.

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