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How much do favoritism, bias and politics interfere with fbb competitions?

Nov 21, 2021 - permalink

Assume I don't know a thing about these competitions, because I don't.

Nov 21, 2021 - permalink

Yup. All that

Nov 21, 2021 - permalink
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Nov 22, 2021 - permalink

in the pro leagues, a lot - who you're coached by, who trains you, who has pissed off a judge or official recently etc.

i see it at some local shows here too.

Nov 22, 2021 - permalink

All good answers. Even the ones anticipating doom gave me an idea of what I could expect.

The reason why I asked is because I think I picked out a favorite, based on what I think a champ should look like, but of course my opinion is heavily laden with bias. Then I tried to imagine that I had a relationship with the person (like good friend, fellow gym mate, those kinds of things) and how I would react if my favorite wasn't recognized.

With that being said, I have my favorite but really they are all so close to perfect I think it is impossible to pick a winner.

Nov 22, 2021 - permalink

Been hearing about it since the 80s so I'm sure it affects a lot of competitions.

fp909
Nov 22, 2021 - permalink

thing is unlike other sports there is so much subjectivity.

Looking at the WPD olympia there is a pretty big camp in each of the placings who though they should have been first or second (myself, I think Brooke Walker should have placed second and even first, though i understand maybe they wanted a bit more conditioning).

politics is huge, and i always heard lots of rumors about girls having to sleep with some judges for placings or favors or whatever.

the coaching wars is so funny to me too.

Nov 22, 2021 - permalink

thing is unlike other sports there is so much subjectivity.

Looking at the WPD olympia there is a pretty big camp in each of the placings who though they should have been first or second (myself, I think Brooke Walker should have placed second and even first, though i understand maybe they wanted a bit more conditioning).

politics is huge, and i always heard lots of rumors about girls having to sleep with some judges for placings or favors or whatever.

the coaching wars is so funny to me too.

I agree that some of the women who enter bodybuilding competitions would sleep with the judges in order to win the competition or place near the top.

Chainer
Nov 22, 2021 - permalink

Yikes, this has the potential to be a total shit show of a thread...

Comments like this annoy me. You may be right but even so there is no use in prematurely declaring a thread to be a "shitshow", and by posting a comment like this you are helping to turn it into that. Instead actually contribute something helpful to it, or don't post at all.

Carry on... and please no one respond to this comment, I am just explaining for future reference why I deleted the two comments above, and what not to do in the future.

Nov 22, 2021 - permalink

I agree that some of the women who enter bodybuilding competitions would sleep with the judges in order to win the competition or place near the top.

I'm a cynical person by nature, but I'm having trouble resolving this. There is a pic of Sunny Andrews holding up a gigantic check of her prize money for 3rd place. Just looking at her, I find it hard to believe she had to resort to any sort of foul play to win it. I know that's nowhere near any kind of logical deduction, but I am gonna go with my instincts on this.

fp909
Nov 22, 2021 - permalink

People say that about steroids in CrossFit, “why would they risk getting popped for so little reward”. Never underestimate people.

Idk how rampant sleeping around is these days but it used to be pretty widespread

Nov 22, 2021 - permalink

I’ll just put this here. They both just competed and won in a “natural” show that was “drug tested”.

Nov 22, 2021 - permalink

😂😂😂

Nov 22, 2021 - permalink

Exactly DamageDontrol…..things that make you go “hmmmm”

fp909
Nov 22, 2021 - permalink

Well my feelings are that drug tests are actually intelligence tests. If you’re dumb enough to get caught you’re too dumb to compete and also use lmao

cgsweat
Nov 22, 2021 - permalink

They've had ways of getting around these drug tests since at least the 80's. They're a joke at this point.

Nov 22, 2021 - permalink

I guess I am missing something here. What in this pic suggests that they defeated drug testing? What do you guys see that I am not considering?

Nov 22, 2021 - permalink

I guess I am missing something here. What in this pic suggests that they defeated drug testing? What do you guys see that I am not considering?

Seriously?

Look at their physiques

Nov 22, 2021 - permalink

Yes seriously. I did say I did not know anything about these competitions. Back up your argument. Describe.

Nov 22, 2021 - permalink

The women in the picture competed in a competition that is supposed to be reserved for athletes who are not on PEDs. The two women in the picture are obviously on PEDs so they should not have been allowed to compete in this event. On top of that they both won their classes. It’s that simple.

Nov 22, 2021 - permalink

Ok, let me rephrase. What do you see that has convinced you that they are obviously on PEDs? Be specific.

Nov 22, 2021 - permalink

That would be a derailment of the topic of this thread, and would most likely result in long arguments back and forth trying to convince the other party what your own opinion is. Not worth my time.

Nov 22, 2021 - permalink

These are the types of arguments people use to discredit competitors that they don't like (favoritism, bias). It's called smear and retreat. Make an accusation and avoid the responsibility of backing it up. Certainly not worth my time either.

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