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> Its seems like a lot of women would gather their renown here, just to disappear into oblivion after the success. > > Maybe only allowing logged in users to access the gallery will help? Shotgun DMCA requests do seem like an issue > > Also, considering fairness and rights, it doesn't make sense/isn't fair for them to demand taking down their galleries of images they have publicly uploaded online and not deleted themselves. I would understand if they removed the images from their pages and requesting the same from other sources, but in this context just seems like pure freaking greed. > > Edit: I've read through the entire thread. Its quite sad that there seems to be an increase of takedown requests. This website have helped me learn a lot about athletic women over the years. I am sure there are many other users who gained a lot from it. The website has existed waaaayyy before muscular women gained their recent recognition(I think there was a noticeable upsurge in popularity over the past ~3 years or so). > This website has normalized the female figures that have been quite a taboo before.
> I really hope there will be a free future, like it used to be
"Used to be"?
It's always been free. No one pays anything to visit or to be featured here.
Some people don't wish to participate. Big deal. Every time one exits (the reason doesn't matter), more than one takes that place. Forest fires can do a lot of harm, but they also clear the earth for new growth, too.
I've meant "Free" in the sense of freedom of information, not price. Srry to see your head so polluted with materialism, that "free" only rings the money/pricetag assosciation for you
I really hate this thread. It seems like something people love discussing so I've refrained from locking it but it has taken a LOT of restraint on my part.
Two reasons for this.
One is that it leads to a lot of catastrophizing like this:
Whether you are simply ignorant of the fact that only a small single-digit percentage of models on the site have been blacklisted and a similarly small percentage of uploads deleted for that reason, or you do realize but just don't care, I'm not sure. But people uncritically read this stuff and think the sky is falling, thanks to the existence of this thread.
The other reason is that there are, broadly speaking, two categories of models who get blacklisted:
First, there are models who for varying reasons are not comfortable with the attention they get on here. Very frequently they will have less than one page's worth of pictures at the time of deletion. For these models they often want privacy so mentioning them in this thread, while allowed, does them a disservice.
The other category is models who have an Onlyfans (or similar)_page and it is their manager slingshotting DMCA removals without a thought in the world. This is almost always the case for any model who gets removed from here who also has an active OF page. In these cases I want to definitively NOT give them free advertisement/attention by having them mentioned here (because, honestly, their parasasites of managers and associated DMCA agencies can get fucked), and this thread goes against that.
So in basically no cases is it actually a good thing to bring up / discuss blacklisted models.
Chainer, I have respect for you and this website. And I would agree that OF models, agencies and attention whoring can go the f out. But you twist my point about freedom. I have no desire to argue and I am sure you have no such desires either, thx for the reply
I've meant "Free" in the sense of freedom of information, not price. Srry to see your head so polluted with materialism, that "free" only rings the money/pricetag assosciation for you
The level of entitlement in your tone signals why you likely missed the double entendre.
People have the freedom to participate here or not. The women who have elected - or whose agents have elected on their behalf - not to be a part of GWM should have that freedom and should be able to communicate that to interested parties.
You seem to be treating access as a right rather than a privilege that depends on the continued consent of the people creating the content in the first place. Their content existing publicly at one point does not create a permanent public claim on their future participation.
And despite all the hand-wringing over women leaving, the sky somehow keeps failing to fall. One exits, others arrive. That's how communities evolve.
You seem to be treating access as a right rather than a privilege that depends on the continued consent of the people creating the content in the first place. Their content existing publicly at one point does not create a permanent public claim on their future participation.
Specifically stated in my original message "publicly uploaded online and not deleted themselves."
Specifically stated in my original message "publicly uploaded online and not deleted themselves."
If you're going to try lawyering about wording while discussing a matter that quintessentially revolves around copyrighted photos, you should probably begin by having the smallest grasp of how copyright works and its distinction from works in the public domain. Hint: public โ public domain.
To the guys who are mad about "blacklisting" ... what are you mad about? I don't get it.
Can you not download Instagram and X like the rest of us?
In theory, this site should only be showing things where are publicly accessible without cost elsewhere, so like why the hell can't you publicly access it without cost?
I can. We all can.
To the guys who are mad about "blacklisting" ... what are you mad about? I don't get it.
Can you not download Instagram and X like the rest of us?
In theory, this site should only be showing things where are publicly accessible without cost elsewhere, so like why the hell can't you publicly access it without cost?
I can. We all can.
For me I find it inconvenient because I rely on the tag system a lot and there is nothing similar on the platforms you mentioned (maybe hashtags, but that's it).
They may also have multiple accounts that make it hard to keep track of their content. Like how G. Parker went under multiple usernames on Reddit, YouTube, Instagram. This site streamlines the process of following them.
Some models are more rarely posted here though and if I want to see more of their stuff I have to go directly to the source.
To the guys who are mad about "blacklisting" ... what are you mad about? I don't get it.
Can you not download Instagram and X like the rest of us?
In theory, this site should only be showing things where are publicly accessible without cost elsewhere, so like why the hell can't you publicly access it without cost?
I can. We all can.
Actually I cant they banned my inactive accounts and wont let me make new ones. you used to be able to view stuff without one and only needed it to post follow and like. but now you cannot use it without an account. i always hated those sites and dont understand why they are so popular
I have noticed there are also pics uploaded to this site from insta accounts which are set to private (and thus inaccessible to people who haven't been added). What's the site policy on this kind of behaviour anyways?
In theory, this site should only be showing things where are publicly accessible without cost elsewhere, so like why the hell can't you publicly access it without cost?
I can. We all can.
Good luck on Douyin ๐
I have noticed there are also pics uploaded to this site from insta accounts which are set to private (and thus inaccessible to people who haven't been added). What's the site policy on this kind of behaviour anyways?
Our moderation focuses on whether a post violates this siteโs rules. If an outside accountโs privacy status changes, that is between that user and the outside service. Specific posts that appear to violate our rules can still be reported for review.
Efi Sarris, but I understand why she wanted to be removed so I wish her all the best.
I've said it before but anyone looking to monetise online is foolish to remove themselves from sites like this. Except for blatantly pirated content (which this site avoids), all advertising is good advertising. This site, and other similar ones, direct A LOT of people towards fbbs/gwms that they otherwise would have no idea about. It makes no commercial sense to remove yourself from a site like this, it is basically free advertising.
But then not everyone is monetising online and there are plenty of other reasons. But there are definitely a lot of fbb/gwm who are monetising who have removed themselves and it makes no sense financially or commercially.
The sad thing about this site that is kind of like museum of female bodybuilders so their photos don't get lost to time
WPW is more like this. But it costs money. This is the free, no frills version.
True but at least with money we save we can put it towards a show or towards a session ๐๐๐
I really hate this thread. It seems like something people love discussing so I've refrained from locking it but it has taken a LOT of restraint on my part.
Two reasons for this.
One is that it leads to a lot of catastrophizing like this:
Whether you are simply ignorant of the fact that only a small single-digit percentage of models on the site have been blacklisted and a similarly small percentage of uploads deleted for that reason, or you do realize but just don't care, I'm not sure. But people uncritically read this stuff and think the sky is falling, thanks to the existence of this thread.
The other reason is that there are, broadly speaking, two categories of models who get blacklisted:
First, there are models who for varying reasons are not comfortable with the attention they get on here. Very frequently they will have less than one page's worth of pictures at the time of deletion. For these models they often want privacy so mentioning them in this thread, while allowed, does them a disservice.
The other category is models who have an Onlyfans (or similar)_page and it is their manager slingshotting DMCA removals without a thought in the world. This is almost always the case for any model who gets removed from here who also has an active OF page. In these cases I want to definitively NOT give them free advertisement/attention by having them mentioned here (because, honestly, their parasasites of managers and associated DMCA agencies can get fucked), and this thread goes against that.
So in basically no cases is it actually a good thing to bring up / discuss blacklisted models.