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I had an unpleasant time with a coworker once who was obsessed with my shaved head. I shaved it because I was balding and thought it looked less unattractive than the pattern baldness. But other than that, I didn't think or care about it. So when this woman kept coming up behind me and rubbing my head, constantly telling me how much she liked "the shape of my head," and telling me she fantasized about me getting a leather jacket and riding a Harley, it was a huge turn off. She might as well been going on about how sexy my elbows were. It just didn't compute for me.
Had she just controlled her impulses and acted like she had met a bald person before, I would've had no issue getting to know her, and who knows... But she blew it by acting so obsessed with an aspect of me that I didn't find sexual at all.
I'm sorry you had to endure that abuse. Like are you ok?
Also, some guys apparently have all the luck
It is a minority but the e-mailing and so on is kind of spooky along with sending pictures of yourself and asking about roids. You don't do that to strangers. I have it as a fetish but that does not mean reaching out to the women like they were my friends. I suppose some of the girls on the pay tier or chat don't mind since they make money that way. The rest....it is off base.
I was going to upload videos of this girl who went to my college that is 21 benching 230 plus deadlifting 400+ but I KNOW that someone is going to make her uncomfortable so I never post her.
It’s probably a good rule of them to avoid posting stuff here without asking somebody unless they are publicly in the fitness world and it’s already a publicly available video. I don’t think it’s a good idea to post a video of somebody you know in a place like this without their permission, regardless of your evaluation of the site
It’s probably a good rule of them to avoid posting stuff here without asking somebody unless they are publicly in the fitness world and it’s already a publicly available video. I don’t think it’s a good idea to post a video of somebody you know in a place like this without their permission, regardless of your evaluation of the site
They’re publicly in the fitness world and it’s a publicly available video but I hear you
This thread inspired me to take another look at the deleted "Kiki Charoen" images, and I ran them through Google's synthID detection. Guess what, they're AI.
Here are the ones I tried, so you can verify for yourselves:
Of course, from this it follows that the "disgustedkiki" account (post upthread, screenshot at end of this comment in case it is deleted) is also fake roleplay, and you can't take anything they said at face value. While I'm sure real women do receive creepy messages from men, this incident provides no additional evidence of that because it is all fake.
So how did I miss this originally?
I guess I forgot that synthID watermarking is a thing Google does until the other thread reminded me, as I don't think other AI generators do this (AFAIK).
Some people in the image comments correctly called them out as AI, and I myself thought there were some AI tells (unrealistic proportions; oddly evenly spaced acne). However, before I did anything about that, I got the removal request via email and "disgustedkiki" showed up, so I naively updated towards her being real... after all, surely someone wouldn't stage this kind of a roleplay?
I am now less naive.
Screenshot of the disgustedkiki comment upthread:
Great find and I agree with your conclusions.
It does seem odd how orchestrated this appeared to be. Some weird attempt at performing a psyops? Then again, who would be bored enough to do this on a female muscle site using multiple accounts and mail addresses, and to what purpose? And all while using an AI that clearly watermarks its creations? Most curious.
What a crazy turn of events. Good investigative work!
And to echo what cdcd said, this is such a strange thing to occur, especially on this type of site as we know that schmoes are a thing but who goes through a whole AI related process just to spice up a fetish site?
This thread inspired me to take another look at the deleted "Kiki Charoen" images, and I ran them through Google's synthID detection. Guess what, they're AI.
Of course, from this it follows that the "disgustedkiki" account (post upthread, screenshot at end of this comment in case it is deleted) is also fake roleplay, and you can't take anything they said at face value. While I'm sure real women do receive creepy messages from men, this incident provides no additional evidence of that because it is all fake.
So how did I miss this originally?
I guess I forgot that synthID watermarking is a thing Google does until the other thread reminded me, as I don't think other AI generators do this (AFAIK).
Some people in the image comments correctly called them out as AI, and I myself thought there were some AI tells (unrealistic proportions; oddly evenly spaced acne). However, before I did anything about that, I got the removal request via email and "disgustedkiki" showed up, so I naively updated towards her being real... after all, surely someone wouldn't stage this kind of a roleplay?
I am now less naive.
Screenshot of the disgustedkiki comment upthread:
Screenshots help if it's all you have, but screenshots can easily be faked:
Whenever possible, I prefer to use the archive sites.
The comment was still up, so I archived it:
https://web.archive.org/web/20251230031725/ht...
Also, I wouldn't take the word of disgustedkiki (in the fake screenshot). Keep looking for other catfish, and ai images. Plus they almost certainly have one or more other GWM user accounts (sock puppets). Given the level of effort they put into "disgustedkiki" and the "Kiki Charoen" images, as well as possibly the "@ambernadine.vv" Tiktok account and possibly other "sock puppet" user accounts promoting and defending the catfish. I'd also red flag users that upload and that are "first" to "discover" the ai images and boost them with comments or screenshots of comments in the forum. I won't name names in public, but these two threads have that activity.
If you remember the movie "Catfish", the woman featured had created an entire support network of sock puppet accounts to give perceived credibility to her primary roleplay account.
I think that's farther than any but a rarified few are willing to go, but as the movie demonstrated, those rarified few do exist, and it appears we may have one here now.
What's the payoff here? Why does "Kiki" put in so much time and effort to create a fake account(s) and pictures to fool people she doesn't know?
Poor Chainer you're gonna be working overtime on this AI stuff for a long time I think. I completely missed the Kiki pictures so the stuff is getting better and better.
What's the payoff here? Why does "Kiki" put in so much time and effort to create a fake account(s) and pictures to fool people she doesn't know?
Reasonably sure that the answer involves them beating off furiously in their dark messy bedsit at the thought of whatever hyperspecific mischief it is that they are aiming to achieve.
The detail I can't help you with, but I think we can be reasonably sure of the end goal.
That or it's some kind of sextortion thing. But that's why smart guys know that you never send dick pics to random girls on the internet.
Or, if you do, then you need to make sure they don't have your face in.
I'm off topic again, apologies.
My first thought is that it’s equivalent to face-swapping your ex-wife or a celebrity on a nude or in this case FBB’s body. And then screwing around with AI. That’s why I have a rule when I use AI — NO images/animation of real people (civilians OR celebrities) without their consent. And now I suppose I have to look out for all the other jerks who DON’T follow this rule. It just seems like a violation.
Can anyone give a recap please , there are too many long messages to read ,please
Can anyone give a recap please
"Kiki Charoen" isn't a real person and this whole thread was likely part of someone's elaborate impersonation fetish. Chainer ran "Kiki's" pics through Google's AI detector and found all of them contain SynthID metadata, which is a watermark added by Google's image generators (likely NanoBanana Pro in this case).
I love living in the future.
They must have asked the AI to generate pictures of someone with dioxin poisoning.
LOL
Can anyone give a recap please , there are too many long messages to read ,please
In rough chronological order:
i see my photos are posted on your site, which has led to a large amount of weird fetish comments on my socials. I kindly request to PLEASE take off my photos and prevent further uploads of my content.
Again? These degenerates have done this before? Holy shit some of you are absolute sickos. The whole reason I stayed private for 4 years was because of fetishists. Look, I don't kinkshame or anything, I like muscular woman myself, but why are you guys in my DM's sending dickpics, showing your own biceps to ask if I'm bigger, asking about my steroid use, even entire roleplays where you are projecting your own fetishes on me? (Envallfan, look at your own comment). I'm an 18 year old girl who still goes to school, I do not exist to entertain your kinks. I really liked being out there and loved all the support, and it made me really sad that it took only 4 days to get ruined. If I don't reply to a DM, it's not because I hate you, I don't even know you, and every social I was on had 99+ message requests, ofcourse i'm not gonna reply to all of it. But to then stalk my social media, find my sister's IG and then bombard her with kink-related questions about her little sister? HUGE RED FLAG.
Please delete this upload, and I ask the other uploaders to please delete their pics of me as well, I have already sent an e-mail to request deletion!
Agree with Gatsby, pushing your fetish on someone who doesn't share that fetish is never going to go well for you. I can tell you from experience.
I had an unpleasant time with a coworker once who was obsessed with my shaved head. I shaved it because I was balding and thought it looked less unattractive than the pattern baldness. But other than that, I didn't think or care about it. So when this woman kept coming up behind me and rubbing my head, constantly telling me how much she liked "the shape of my head," and telling me she fantasized about me getting a leather jacket and riding a Harley, it was a huge turn off. She might as well been going on about how sexy my elbows were. It just didn't compute for me.
Had she just controlled her impulses and acted like she had met a bald person before, I would've had no issue getting to know her, and who knows... But she blew it by acting so obsessed with an aspect of me that I didn't find sexual at all.
I'd bet most fit girls either don't view their muscles as a big part of their sexuality, or if they do, they only want certain kinds of attention. Some are more interested in validation from their friends or their fitness community. There are a lot of GWMs that date huge roided out dudes with dominant personalities. Most women, even strong ones, tend to like the submissive role more often than not. So until you know that a woman is into men asking them to toss you around like a ragdoll or carry you around like an infant, just leave it aloe until you know them better.
Also, people tend to do and say things they would never do or say in the real world when they can hide behind the anonymity of the internet. Back in the day, in the real world, if an adult man kept pestering an 18 year old girl, and then her sister, asking all these sexual fetish questions, that person was very likely to get beaten up by her boyfriend/male friends/brothers or get reported to the police. Not advocating for violence of course, but people tend towards their worst impulses when they know there are no consequences for their actions. That's why websites need sensible moderation, which I think this site does a pretty good job of.