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Here are a few that I think I tagged with "stock photo" along with their entry on stock photo sites.
Stock photos are the results of photoshoots, and stock is a marketing term rather than an actual photographic technique (such as “black & white/monochrome”). “Stock photo“ was merged into “photoshoot” since the distinction between the two is whether a photoshoot photo is marketed as stock or not. Further, a photo’s status as stock can quickly change (photos come and go from stock sites all the time), so it is not a very stable tagging designation.
Stock photos are the results of photoshoots, and stock is a marketing term rather than an actual photographic technique (such as “black & white/monochrome”). “Stock photo“ was merged into “photoshoot” since the distinction between the two is whether a photoshoot photo is marketed as stock or not. Further, a photo’s status as stock can quickly change (photos come and go from stock sites all the time), so it is not a very stable tagging designation.
Too bad, I would have found the distinction useful. Ah well, your playground, your rules; thanks, at least, for having a rationale for the decision.
Too bad, I would have found the distinction useful. Ah well, your playground, your rules; thanks, at least, for having a rationale for the decision.
I took a look myself and nothing in the “stock photo” tagged images defined them as something distinct, that would warrant that categorisation. They were just general photoshoot images that could maybe be in a stock photo collection, but so could a large number of images on the site. In that regards there was no distinct value.
Certainly they might exist in a stock photo collection, but it feels like equivalent to tagging an image “social media”, because they appear on Instagram.
hey so, this actually may or may not even need a new tag, given it's probably too specific. what Jianwen and Di Qin are wearing here:
and here:
is traditional miao ethnicity clothing/jewelry -- the miao are an ethnic minority group (with the largest sub-group being hmong) originating from (but not unique to) southern and southeastern china. so the "qipao/chinese dress" tag (and ofc the "hanfu" tag) are not applicable here, as those tags reference specific han chinese traditional clothing styles and aesthetics. so i guess to some extent, the "chinese dress" portion of this tag covers miao clothing, but to be specific, not all ethnic miao people are chinese, as their diaspora extends to places such as laos, thailand, vietnam, etc. so it's not accurate to classify miao clothing styles as chinese, since the miao are a distinct ethnicity that transcends china's geographical boundaries.
Di Qin, Chen Jianwen, and a handful of others are mixed-ethnicity with some combination of han and miao heritage. like i said, it's probably too specific and rare on the site for a new tag to be created just for "miao style dress/clothing" but maybe it would make sense to have some kind of broader tag such as "traditional clothing/dress" that would be a catch-all for anything without a distinct classification that is traditional dress. for example, regardless of the specific cultural origin, most everything in these threads would probably fall under that new "traditional clothing/dress" tag: https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/forum/thread/... https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/forum/thread/... . just brainstorming here, what do you think?
First, I must ask: how useful would this tag implementation be? The more fine-grained we get, the more risk we run of creating tags that add noise in the system instead of searching clarity.
Also, these designations are not as clear cut as one might suppose. For the sake of discussion:
Is this dress not traditional?
‘Traditional clothing’ is much broader and more complex than just including things labeled ‘ethnic’ from a western perspective. Would the gown above not count as traditional dress in its own lineage? Where do we draw the line between traditional, historic, and stylized?
My opinion: When tagging, the priority should remain on the model’s physical and muscular attributes, since that’s what most people search for. Pose/activity/action comes next, and setting is tertiary. Clothing, props, and objects can matter, but usually only if they’re widespread and prominent enough to shape the genre or style of the photo, or the pose/actions of the model.
All that said, you are correct: those outfits are not qipao. Another question: would the existing tags “costume/cosplay” and/or “dress” be unsuitable?
First, I must ask: how useful would this tag implementation be? The more fine-grained we get, the more risk we run of creating tags that add noise in the system instead of searching clarity.
Is this dress not traditional?
idk, but it wouldn't be up to me, it would be up to whoever is tagging the image, based on their knowledge. idk enough about the specific style and origin of a dress like that to say one way or another.
‘Traditional clothing’ is much broader and more complex than just including things labeled ‘ethnic’ from a western perspective. Would the gown above not count as traditional dress in its own lineage? Where do we draw the line between traditional, historic, and stylized?
ah, by that dimension, western or non-western isn't the important distinction here. western traditional clothing would and should still fit under any "traditional clothing/dress" tag. it's a catch-all. the origin is irrelevant -- all that matters is that it's traditional clothing/dress. i'm not sure why you just assumed western traditional clothing could not or would not be categorized within that general tag.
My opinion: When tagging, the priority should remain on the model’s physical and muscular attributes, since that’s what most people search for. Pose/activity/action comes next, and setting is tertiary. Clothing, props, and objects can matter, but usually only if they’re widespread and prominent enough to shape the genre or style of the photo, or the pose/actions of the model.
sure.
All that said, you are correct: those outfits are not qipao. Another question: would the existing tags “costume/cosplay” and/or “dress” be unsuitable?
yes. "costume/cosplay" is very much unsuitable because traditional clothing/dress are not costumes, they are styles and manners of dress. only in very rare and specific cases, such as with sichuan opera outfits, could "trafitional clothing/dress" also be considered a costume. my point is, some costumes are traditional in nature but the vast majority are not. and then, in reverse, the vast majority of traditional styles are not costumes.
"dress" may or may not be suitable, depending upon the specifics of the image. for example, it's possible for someone to be wearing traditional clothing/dress that isn't a dress. "traditional clothing/dress" just serves as a catch-all that may include dresses as well as other forms of traditional clothing/styles.
First, I must ask: how useful would this tag implementation be? The more fine-grained we get, the more risk we run of creating tags that add noise in the system instead of searching clarity.
Since this tag would be very broad and general, and would serve as a catch-all for "traditional clothing/dress" i feel like it would be very useful for categorizing images with traditional elements and aesthetics -- while also avoiding the need for many very granular and specific micro-tags such as "traditional miao style/dress" or "traditional peruvian style/dress" or "traditional russian style/dress"
Di Qin, Chen Jianwen, and a handful of others are mixed-ethnicity with some combination of han and miao heritage. like i said, it's probably too specific and rare on the site for a new tag to be created just for "miao style dress/clothing" but maybe it would make sense to have some kind of broader tag such as "traditional clothing/dress" that would be a catch-all for anything without a distinct classification that is traditional dress. for example, regardless of the specific cultural origin, most everything in these threads would probably fall under that new "traditional clothing/dress" tag: https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/forum/thread/... https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/forum/thread/... . just brainstorming here, what do you think?
hey, any thoughts or updates on adding a "traditional clothing/dress" tag?
Ditto 'holding boobs' and -- my preference because more elegant -- 'handbra'.
I think the first is like, pushing them up, while the second is covering them
"lying down" and "lying/reclining"