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Are racial differences real in muscle girls?

Jan 07, 2024 - permalink

Not being racist or anything but i have noticed that white women are often WAY larger(taller, more muscly) than women of like indian(where im from)/east asian descent. no joke lol i havent seen one buff indian woman in my life. the difference is especially large compared to scandinavian woman, a couple swedish tourists visited my city and i felt like a little boy in front of them lol.

Exe
Jan 07, 2024 - edited Jan 07, 2024 - permalink

I'd say, no.

Given the huge population of India and the various ethnic groups that have gone to make it up over the centuries, there would probably be such a huge amount of genetic variety where you'd expect see what you haven't seen.

That you haven't seen such is probably because there may not be the same level of interest in female bodybuilding there, not the same access to PEDS, not the same money thrown at the sport, different diets, different cultures, differences in affluence,and a host of other reasons.

It could change in time. I mean take the Chinese. You didn't see them do much by way of female weightlifting, for example, and nowadays their women regularly scoop up the medals in the Olympics.

And, of course, you may not have even been looking well enough. If you're only looking at Western websites, you're probably not seeing any decent representation.

Jan 07, 2024 - permalink

I'd say, no.

Given the huge population of India and the various ethnic groups that have gone to make it up over the centuries, there would probably be such a huge amount of genetic variety where you'd expect see what you haven't seen.

That you haven't seen such is probably because there may not be the same level of interest in female bodybuilding there, not the same access to PEDS, not the same money thrown at the sport, different diets, different cultures, differences in affluence,and a host of other reasons.

It could change in time. I mean take the Chinese. You didn't see them do much by way of female weightlifting, for example, and nowadays their women regularly scoop up the medals in the Olympics.

And, of course, you may not have even been looking well enough. If you're only looking at Western websites, you're probably not seeing any decent representation.

nah. i have been living in this country my whole life, travelled almost all of it and i rarely see buff women lol. compared to when i went to europe where i saw a lot of buff woman. i think its like culture like people in india dont want their women to be buff and like our womans genetics dont support getting ass buff as white woman i suppose?

Jan 07, 2024 - permalink

I think the differences are very minor. the reason why you see so many strong white women compared to other races. is because in western countries it's more encouraged to work out and go for a non mainstream lifestyle. compared to many African and Asian countries were it's still more patriarchal. the biggest differences I know of are some east African people who can run slightly faster than other people. and you got the dinka people in south Sudan who are very tall and I assume they have a strength advantage. and on the opposite extreme you have the pigmiys who are very short and probably less strong. but the difference between Asians Europeans and most Africans and native Americans aboriginals and so on is tiny or non existant. since in most sports the records are held by people of all races. if one race was stronger that race would dominate the world records.

Jan 07, 2024 - permalink

Given there are racial differences in the texture of earwax I’d say duuur. Read the book by Dr. Dutton on the subject.

Jan 07, 2024 - permalink

Not being racist or anything but i have noticed that white women are often WAY larger(taller, more muscly) than women of like indian(where im from)/east asian descent. no joke lol i havent seen one buff indian woman in my life. the difference is especially large compared to scandinavian woman, a couple swedish tourists visited my city and i felt like a little boy in front of them lol.

Well genes matter but you are wrong https://www.instagram.com/dolewaligirls?igsh=...

Jan 07, 2024 - permalink

Not being racist or anything but i have noticed that white women are often WAY larger(taller, more muscly) than women of like indian(where im from)/east asian descent. no joke lol i havent seen one buff indian woman in my life. the difference is especially large compared to scandinavian woman, a couple swedish tourists visited my city and i felt like a little boy in front of them lol.

Western countries have more disposable income than say, India, allowing more people to go to the gym. More money spent on personal trainers, more spent on supplements, steroids and so on.

And while western male beauty standards encourage male muscularity while not necessarily encouraging female muscularity, male western gym culture might be bleeding into some women who work out and end up gaining muscle. Though admittedly I'm less sure on this than with the previous point.

And since you mentioned east Asia, correct me if I'm wrong but I've heard Korea has a big gym culture, though I don't know about the rest of the region.

Exe
Jan 08, 2024 - permalink

The potential is there:

Jan 08, 2024 - permalink

Not being racist or anything but i have noticed that white women are often WAY larger(taller, more muscly) than women of like indian(where im from)/east asian descent. no joke lol i havent seen one buff indian woman in my life. the difference is especially large compared to scandinavian woman, a couple swedish tourists visited my city and i felt like a little boy in front of them lol.

You have not looked hard enough.

Jan 08, 2024 - permalink

The potential is there:

thats like one woman and she is sauced to the gills

Exe
Jan 08, 2024 - permalink

thats like one woman and she is sauced to the gills

Like the women you adulate, hmmm?

Jan 08, 2024 - permalink

Like the women you adulate, hmmm?

I don't think they're saying she's not impressive. The word "potential" suggests some untapped quality, waiting to be awakened.

A woman already on special sports supplements has tapped into her potential and is "taking initiative".

Like how a Pikachu can become a Raichu. A Raichu is already a Raichu.

Jan 08, 2024 - permalink

I've noticed that a rather large percentage of black women (provided they're not overweight) have at least some visible muscle.

Jan 08, 2024 - permalink

Like the women you adulate, hmmm?

my point is, women like this are extremely rare in india

Jan 30, 2024 - permalink

Uh oh, better get the calipers out! It’s race science time on girls with muscle dot com.

You guys post consistently post the stupidest shit on these forums, but this is impressive.

There’s more genetic variation amongst racial groups than there is between groups…

Jan 31, 2024 - permalink

Uh oh, better get the calipers out! It’s race science time on girls with muscle dot com.

You guys post consistently post the stupidest shit on these forums, but this is impressive.

There’s more genetic variation amongst racial groups than there is between groups…

"There’s more genetic variation amongst racial groups than there is between groups" what is that even supposed to mean?

Jan 31, 2024 - permalink

Given there are racial differences in the texture of earwax I’d say duuur. Read the book by Dr. Dutton on the subject.

No thanks. Nobody wants to spend that much time on earwax. lol

Feb 06, 2024 - permalink

"There’s more genetic variation amongst racial groups than there is between groups" what is that even supposed to mean?

Means that racial groups are an extremely vague notion.

Feb 06, 2024 - edited Feb 06, 2024 - permalink

nah. i have been living in this country my whole life, travelled almost all of it and i rarely see buff women lol. compared to when i went to europe where i saw a lot of buff woman. i think its like culture like people in india dont want their women to be buff and like our womans genetics dont support getting ass buff as white woman i suppose?

First, women do not look like the ones on this site by accident. Genetics are not relevant to this question, as you are talking about human biology, which is over 99.9% consistent across the world.

(Exhibit A here. Vidya eats and trains. She is genetically human. Exhibit B here.

Culture is dominant, as it also informs diet and exercise. Western women who become fit and muscular are not exactly a part of the dominant culture. It takes deliberate changes to diet and consistent focused effort. They typically become a part of a community of like-minded hobbyists, since most people do not understand or support the amount of time and level of effort required to maintain a muscular body.

If you come from a culture where “the nail that sticks out gets hammered,” then the chances are even lower that a woman will go through the diet and physical challenges required to look fit and muscular.

fp909
Feb 06, 2024 - permalink

hoo boy well i'll be keeping an eye on this one

Feb 06, 2024 - permalink

on hindsight this was a dumbass thread, mods, please close it

Feb 06, 2024 - permalink

You haven’t been around Pacific Islanders much. No supplements needed. All natural. Built different.

Feb 07, 2024 - permalink

"There’s more genetic variation amongst racial groups than there is between groups" what is that even supposed to mean?

That the Gaussian curves depicting certain characteristics mostly overlap, even though they may have different averages and deviations.

No thanks. Nobody wants to spend that much time on earwax. lol

Edward Dutton's book is about racial differences in general.

Means that racial groups are an extremely vague notion.

Racial groups are an extremely well defined phenomenon. To the extent that you must take them into account when researching and developing medications for example, or risk eventually killing someone.

Feb 07, 2024 - edited Feb 07, 2024 - permalink

That the Gaussian curves depicting certain characteristics mostly overlap, even though they may have different averages and deviations.

Edward Dutton's book is about racial differences in general.

Racial groups are an extremely well defined phenomenon. To the extent that you must take them into account when researching and developing medications for example, or risk eventually killing someone.

You'd have to split humanity in hundreds of different races that fequently overlap each other, biologists and geneticists have moved away long ago from that notion given how much of an headache and imprecise it is. Oh and Edward Dutton is hardly a reference, he's not a scientist, he's an ideologue and an activist: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Edward_Dutton

Feb 08, 2024 - permalink

Oh and Edward Dutton is hardly a reference

I don't care about references. I'm interested in what the person is actually saying. These days everyone is an ideologue or an activist. Credentials are for those who volunteer to believe in them. Having said that, this is the first time I hear about Dutton and it remains to be seen if I have time to see what he's up to.

Also, if Ratwiki smears someone, that does not mean he's an interesting thinker. But if someone is an interesting thinker, then most probably there's a smear page on him in Ratwiki. So I kind of interpret Ratwiki in light of reality and not the other way round.

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