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From my experience in strength sports and actually being around fit and muscular women in person, all of them have had at some point received creepy comments from "schmoes" with fetishy questions or just weird comments and requests. While not all these dudes had pictures on their profile, I noticed that pretty much all of the ones with pics looked clearly out of shape and weren't at all into lifting or any kind of dedicated training. I am a bit shamed to admit that when I was younger and before I got into my current sport, that I was also like that when messaging or commenting on a bodybuilder's page.
As such, I honestly believe that every dude who finds muscular women hot and/or wants to get with one should also train at a dedicated level (including possibly competing) in some kind of strength sport, whether that be bodybuilding, powerlifting, strongman, olympic weightlifting or crossfit. I know that I always thought that I understood how hard they trained, but it wasn't until I got into training myself that my appreciation and admiration for the work they put in increased exponentially. It also helped me not fall into the "schmoe myths" that we see a lot on forums like that, and that helped me with not feeling compelled to ask fetishy questions when I would message them, and instead be able to talk about actual topics related to their disciplines like training, nutrition, recovery, programs and so on.
I want to emphasize that I know that fit and muscular guys can also be creepy just like non-fit dudes can be respectful and not wear their fetishes on their sleeves. That being said, I think actually getting into lifting in a dedicated level can help prevent someone from interacting with the women they find attractive with their kinks fully out and thus repelling them. I know it personally helped me.
Dirty schmoes. Print and read.....
Nah.
I am happy that the Gatsby Method has been successful for him, not not just for his physical health, but also for helping him to develop a healthy mindset about his interests.
But a guy's gotta know where he's at on the spectrum. Most people are not where we're at (as in here, right now, on a site which features well-muscled women) and they're not here, because they're not where the bulk of us are in terms of what we like to look at or, dare I say, what many of us "enjoy".
I won't go deep into it on this thread, but if "getting the hot musclegirl" means completely suppressing my fetish, then what am I actually getting? If a girl isn't into a guy being into her muscle, I'd be cheating myself out of what I enjoy, just to be there. Relationships can and do grow and evolve over time, but if her baseline is "you being turned on by muscular women - even though I'm a muscular woman - grosses me out", then she could never be more to me than simply someone I know.
Disclaimer: Social media consumption is a choice and not every post is for everybody, but...
I kinda hate it when someone who isn't competing at the current NPC Nationals says on Instagram: "Congratulations and good luck to everyone competing at Nationals this weekend!!" and then uses that post to say "Here's a photo dump of all the years I competed" or "Here's a bunch of pics of me when I won my Pro Card".
I'm not a competitor, I'm just a silly fan, but those posts give off the wrong kind of energy to me.
Unpopular opinion:
Bedazzled posing suits should be banned. The price on them for these ladies is INSANE. I'm talking it can run almost $2000 for some of the really premium ones, and of course the competitors all try and one-up each other with more intricate and expensive suits.
Meanwhile the men's ones are like $30.
Women already face much higher costs (hair, makeup, nails) and less financial reward with prize money. The least that they could do is standardize the clothing so that it's affordable.
Stop it.
a bedazzler is $20
multi-pack of sequins $8
rhinestones $10
glue $3
So, for about $40, a competitor can turn her $60-80 swimsuit into a stage design all her own.
I kinda hate it when someone who isn't competing at the current NPC Nationals says on Instagram: "Congratulations and good luck to everyone competing at Nationals this weekend!!" and then uses that post to say "Here's a photo dump of all the years I competed" or "Here's a bunch of pics of me when I won my Pro Card".
Sarah Villegas did that one year, and it rubbed me the wrong way.
Disclaimer: Social media consumption is a choice and not every post is for everybody, but...
I kinda hate it when someone who isn't competing at the current NPC Nationals says on Instagram: "Congratulations and good luck to everyone competing at Nationals this weekend!!" and then uses that post to say "Here's a photo dump of all the years I competed" or "Here's a bunch of pics of me when I won my Pro Card".
I'm not a competitor, I'm just a silly fan, but those posts give off the wrong kind of energy to me.
There are among my least favorite. Smacks of a terrible disaster happening and someone posts photos of their vacation six months go saying “I can’t believe it I was just there”
Saw so many people supporting Dani Speegle when she did that shit this year lmao posting bikini photos as a post about some travesty
Julia Monroe spent months hot gluing her suit. She’s a district attorney. If she has time to do it at cost then these other women can who pay other people to do it.
They all talk about how they don’t have a life so they could prob spend some of that tv time doing arts and crafts
OK, but why do only the women have to either spend a ton of money or spend months of labor? Why do they have this incredibly work-intensive apparel requirement but the men do not?
OK, but why do only the women have to either spend a ton of money or spend months of labor? Why do they have this incredibly work intensive apparel requirement but the men do not?
you mean the same people who spent months of actual physical labor dieting down for a beauty paegant? it should be part and parcel.
or really we should just remove tops from the equation, if men had to spend money on tops theyd have to spend thousands too!
OK, but why do only the women have to either spend a ton of money or spend months of labor? Why do they have this incredibly work intensive apparel requirement but the men do not?
Also quoted from Instagram more than one thousand times:
"Anything worth having is worth sacrificing for."
and
"The harder you work for something, the more you will appreciate it."
Thankfully, the people who post these thoughts typically do not post "Help me achieve my dream!" gofundme's.
you mean the same people who spent months of actual physical labor dieting down for a beauty paegant? it should be part and parcel.
or really we should just remove tops from the equation, if men had to spend money on tops theyd have to spend thousands too!
I guess this thread is literally called "Unpopular Opinions" so I knew what I was getting into. But hear me out.
Both genders need to train like hell, diet down, juice up with drugs, get shaved and get tanned. Although the men achieve larger and more muscular bodies, one could argue that the women actually need to work harder and be more dedicated for what they get. But let's call it even for argument's sake.
Why should the women deal with an arms race in their posing suits, when the guys can wear something simple and inexpensive? Why does one gender have a radically higher bar of expense and effort?
Even more granular: why do the figure & physique girls have to wear bedazzled suits while the female bodybuilders do not? These rules are arbitrary. They can be changed.
And to the dude with the price list from Hobby Lobby: you should give that a try and make your own posing suit with a bikini and a hot glue gun. I'm sure you'll nail it on the first time and you'll save a ton of money.
maybe a good question but when did the sparkles show up? bet you one person started doing it and they followed suit and it became standard. i just looked at ms olympia 97 and none of the winners had sequins
womens bb wears it during the night show. literally watching them in sparkles, but way less sparkles or none at all during prejuding for WBB
Why does one gender have a radically higher bar of expense and effort?
pink tax baby, you think bb is the only arena where this is the case lmao
and yeah i bet i could spent 6 months putting rhintestones on a bra. its not rocket science.
EDIT: 6 bucks on amazon
it's a no brainer. i could mess up a few times and still never hit what tehyre paying.
I guess this thread is literally called "Unpopular Opinions" so I knew what I was getting into. But hear me out.
Both genders need to train like hell, diet down, juice up with drugs, get shaved and get tanned. Although the men achieve larger and more muscular bodies, one could argue that the women actually need to work harder and be more dedicated for what they get. But let's call it even for argument's sake.
Why should the women deal with an arms race in their posing suits, when the guys can wear something simple and inexpensive? Why does one gender have a radically higher bar of expense and effort?
Even more granular: why do the figure & physique girls have to wear bedazzled suits while the female bodybuilders do not? These rules are arbitrary. They can be changed.
And to the dude with the price list from Hobby Lobby: you should give that a try and make your own posing suit with a bikini and a hot glue gun. I'm sure you'll nail it on the first time and you'll save a ton of money.
This is the Girls With Muscle forum. The admin and moderators allow us to talk about a variety of subjects, but I'm here for the female women. You keep asking the question, so congratulations, you've badgered at least one poster into answering: "Many men have done a lot to encourage women they know to take up advanced weight training. They get credit for that. I'm happy they exist. They matter. But for the purposes of my participation on this site, I don't give a shit about Guys With Muscle, to include what they spend on their suits."
And just like my participation on the forum is a choice, competitors have choices with regard to the suits they wear onstage. Some will choose to purchase expensive custom suits, some will choose to RENT pricey suits, some will borrow a nice suit, and others will DIY. Of those choosing to compete, no one is compelled to spend more than they can comfortably afford on a suit.
Okay, lemme try this one more way. You guys familiar with UFC? Probably one of the more equitable sports in terms of showcasing men and women (even.. female women as stated above ^^). Both genders are there to fight in their weight class. Winner of the fight gets the prize.
The guys wear shorts. The girls wear shorts and bras. I don't know how much this stuff costs.. but let's say it's not a whole lot.
Now.. maybe someone at UFC decides that the way to get more viewers for the women is to make their outfits more exciting. So they all start wearing really complex hand-made uniforms with crazy panels and expensive fabrics and suddenly the typical women's outfit costs like $700. And while the ladies CAN make their own at home, being female women and all, they generally don't because they want to look their best and look to the same standard as the other ladies, so they just suck it up and pay that extra amount. Most female women be like that, and they're sadly conditioned to accept it.
The dudes do none of this. It is indeed a pink tax.
Is that fair? Should the girls just eat it and think "Anything worth having is worth sacrificing for?"
Is there not like a cheapass $15 version they can buy that takes care of the problem?
Real answer: there probably is, and it's true that nothing is stopping a competitor from making her own suit.
But these girls spend a ton of time, effort, and money in prep, and they want to maximize their chances. They'll invest in a good suit to (in their mind) look their best, and a professionally made and fairly expensive one is most likely going to look better. They're judged on the full package. So they just absorb this enormous cost that IMO doesn't have to be there. As fp909 pointed out, they're not an original part of bodybuilding.
Source: friends with several FBB pros, and subscribe to and chat with an irresponsible amount of them on OF.
Also anyone who's been married or been to a wedding or even a prom knows that women be like this.
i think lost in all this is that many (most?) of the women ...well it helps them feel more feminine and gosh darn it no matter how much i see them say it i do not believe they feel feminine often with the muscle some of them area carrying. same with adding any jewelry, weaves, make up, nails. men do none fo this, but the act of bodybuilding to them is masculine, i think we'd agree for most.
More of a confession but I become extremely disappointed when I see a lady get a massive tattoo around her forearm that extends to her hand. She can obviously have whatever modification she wants done and i wouldn't want to deny anyone modifying their body in any way but man does it suck to see.
Amazonafit got a sleeve on her arm and I just had to unsubscribe be cause it just found it too distracting. She has what is probably the perfect combination of beauty, mass, strength and thickness not to mention I love her hairstyle but it was such a heartbreaker to see that hand tattoo. I've even come along to Kristina Mendoza and her forearm tats but a hand tat is far too much for me. More of a vent/confession but yeah I definitely hate seeing ladies get these massive tats.
i think lost in all this is that many (most?) of the women ...well it helps them feel more feminine and gosh darn it no matter how much i see them say it i do not believe they feel feminine often with the muscle some of them area carrying. same with adding any jewelry, weaves, make up, nails. men do none fo this, but the act of bodybuilding to them is masculine, i think we'd agree for most.
I think you're entirely correct on that. But the question is: who's putting the pressure on them to be feminine? Is it them, or is it the bodybuilding establishment?
Going back to UFC: I'm not gonna say that those ladies are acting stereotypically feminine. They put their hair in cornrows and beat the absolute piss out of each other. I don't think this invalidates them as women, but it sure ain't Sex and The City.
Bodybuilders? I think you're correct that there's a sensitivy there. Large muscles are traditionally masculine. Testosterone levels over 1000 are also traditionally masculine. So a lot of ladies do have some discomfort with this and tend to overcompensate for it.
But I firmly believe that the over-the-top pageantry of huge makeup, sparkle suits, lucite heels, and prom hair is an (attempted) way for the NPC and IFBB to sell this look to (1) men and (2) other women - in that order.
Which is okay: the girls sign on for this and willfully participate. No one forces them. I just think that the management should be more conscious of the expenses borne by female competitors. They could easily knock out the suit cost.
I'm here for the female women.
fancy that. Some people are here for the male women, and some for the female men, but I too am here for the female women (pardon my anti-wokeness).
fancy that. Some people are here for the male women, and some for the female men, but I too am here for the female women (pardon my anti-wokeness).
LOL where is this even coming from when I'm talking about posing suits?
Is it because I simply brought up the fact that male bodybuilders spend less money? Does even mentioning "male bodybuilder" mean that you guys have to assert your sexuality? I get it, you like girls. Congrats.
I think he's just poking fun at the phrase.
I was just saying that "female women" is too silly a phrase even for this silly board.
I was just saying that "female women" is too silly a phrase even for this silly board.
Yeah, I definitely had to do a double take reading that the first time
Unpopular opinion:
Bedazzled posing suits should be banned. The price on them for these ladies is INSANE. I'm talking it can run almost $2000 for some of the really premium ones, and of course the competitors all try and one-up each other with more intricate and expensive suits.
Meanwhile the men's ones are like $30.
Women already face much higher costs (hair, makeup, nails) and less financial reward with prize money. The least that they could do is standardize the clothing so that it's affordable.