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Aug 23, 2023 - permalink

I don't think so either. But, again it's more about having fun. Are hardcore armwrestling fans more likely to flock to HB than to some other more reputable, specialized site for that sort of content? How large is this community of fans? Is it large enough that Sean should actually consider switching and shooting videos that are 100% serious and realistic?

I'm actually a pro arm wrestling fan and I watch a lot of professional matches. However, I don't watch HB for legit arm wrestling matches, with arm wrestling rules, and using all those techniques etc. I'd prefer them to be non-professional where they are just using brute strength, with proper supervision to make sure they don't injure themselves.

I'd prefer the HB arm wrestling matches to stay more like bar style, and fun. If I had my way, even if Sean loses 90% of matches, let him arm wrestle a girl he outweighs by 30lbs or so, win that match, and he could have a guy like Joey lose to her, etc. Point being, I'm fine with fantasy, but make it at least somewhat believable by not throwing every single match even when it doesn't look realistic :)

Aug 23, 2023 - permalink

And btw, I don't know what I mentioned it before, but I would love to see a "proper" scene with not only AW, but strength domination, humiliation, ect. There's this video with Shannon Seeley where she tells a story about how she beat several guys at AW at a bar. The story is 99% made up, but hearing her talk about it is hot in itself. Now imagine actually recreating that scene, spicing it up a bit, having her beat up a few more guys, twist a few arms, crush a few bones, all with proper camera angles and editing.

It would take more effort, but then you can charge 20 dollars for a 10 minute video and I can promise plenty of people will buy it, just because it wouldn't be the same "guy armwrestles a girl 4 times and loses" video we've seen 50 times already.

FFS just gimmie a camera and a set XD

Here's the vid in question: https://www.herbiceps.com/videos/63539

Aug 24, 2023 - permalink

> > Lucky XD > > Btw, which girl was the biggest challenge to armwrestle?

Oh come on. Sean loses every single match. Whether the girl is big, small, and everything in between. So we never know when it's a real match. I'd certainly love to see Sean win a match or two sometime so we know not every single one is fake/fantasy.

They aren't fake :)- I go 100%- so I try, I will admit do I go 125% every match? Hell no, im not risking an injury to myself or them to please you guys.

Aug 24, 2023 - permalink

And btw, I don't know what I mentioned it before, but I would love to see a "proper" scene with not only AW, but strength domination, humiliation, ect. There's this video with Shannon Seeley where she tells a story about how she beat several guys at AW at a bar. The story is 99% made up, but hearing her talk about it is hot in itself. Now imagine actually recreating that scene, spicing it up a bit, having her beat up a few more guys, twist a few arms, crush a few bones, all with proper camera angles and editing.

It would take more effort, but then you can charge 20 dollars for a 10 minute video and I can promise plenty of people will buy it, just because it wouldn't be the same "guy armwrestles a girl 4 times and loses" video we've seen 50 times already.

FFS just gimmie a camera and a set XD

Here's the vid in question: https://www.herbiceps.com/videos/63539

LOL Yeah that would be nice. Sort of like Builtmore from back in the day! But I'm guessing they likely wouldn't be good at that since it's not their normal thing. To see these girls act out scenes with "decent" acting would definitely sell. I know I'd pay for an hour video! Though I'd expect them to have to charge a lot more than $20, and I'd be fine with it if it's good quality and the storyline is compelling.

Aug 24, 2023 - permalink

They aren't fake :)- I go 100%- so I try, I will admit do I go 125% every match? Hell no, im not risking an injury to myself or them to please you guys.

Yeah, it's obvious you do try your best on most, but definitely not all. Case in point, your match with Beth (the Czech girl). I cam with her all the time and think she's awesome---one of my favorites actually! Even if she legit won, no way she's so strong that you had to use BOTH arms. That's all fantasy stuff.

Again, just to be absolutely clear, I think you guys do great work. Also, I'm more than OK with fantasy matches. But make it believable. Such as not scrunching up your face as if you were already in the fight of your life even though the match hasn't even started yet! LOL You've done that on several occasions.

If you've ever won a match, please post that as well---I'd buy it---just so it doesn't look like you're what they call, a jobber who's job it is to lose and only lose. All I'm saying :)

cgsweat
Sep 20, 2023 - permalink

Several matches here... which one are you most impressed with?

Sep 20, 2023 - edited Sep 20, 2023 - permalink

> > Oh come on. Sean loses every single match. Whether the girl is big, small, and everything in between. So we never know when it's a real match. I'd certainly love to see Sean win a match or two sometime so we know not every single one is fake/fantasy.

And thats why FvF armwrestling matches are way better where the girls' ego is on the line and both of them want to win.

Agreed. Sean does incredible work but it's pretty telling that the F/F matches look much more convincing than the M/F matches. A lot of those matches involve unbalanced opponents, yet even still the bigger girls often have much more trouble taking down a smaller girl than they do taking down Sean. And Sean is obviously by no means a weak looking guy. There are the odd matches that he wins here and there but they are very, very few. I'm guessing the instance referenced in this thread is the match against Sara Fiore which is likely 15 years old at this point.

HB has put out some pretty good F/F armwrestling matches though this year within some of their VODs. Cindy Reyes vs Patricia Gosselin, Sheena Ohlig vs Rachel Brewer, and Melissa Lindmark vs Ranya Dally vs Ariel Rose are very reminiscent of the old-school HB armwrestling matchups. There is an intensity and obvious struggle in these matches that is hard to fake and conspicuously absent from most of the M/F matches.

And these sorts of VODs also highlight the huge spectrum of strength represented by the models on the site. For instance, in one of the armwrestling VODs NoahTrapQueen gets beaten pretty easily by Shannon Seeley, but then both of them get absolutely obliterated by Monstress. Whereas in the M/F matches all of them feel like they have a pretty much uniform strength level where they all handily defeat the guys in almost exactly the same amount of time.

But all in all I'm very happy to see even a slight uptick in obviously real F/F matches. This year has unquestionably been HB's best output in that regard since probably like 2015 and I hope it continues to trend upwards!

Sep 21, 2023 - permalink

First one is the best. She has to work for it but she wins.

Sep 23, 2023 - permalink

Agreed. Sean does incredible work but it's pretty telling that the F/F matches look much more convincing than the M/F matches. A lot of those matches involve unbalanced opponents, yet even still the bigger girls often have much more trouble taking down a smaller girl than they do taking down Sean. And Sean is obviously by no means a weak looking guy. There are the odd matches that he wins here and there but they are very, very few. I'm guessing the instance referenced in this thread is the match against Sara Fiore which is likely 15 years old at this point.

But that's the thing. If there are videos out there where he wins, I've personally yet to see a single one. He loses every single match I've seen him in. It doesn't matter if the girl is big or small. Once Sean steps up to the table, you know he's going to lose.

But everyone's right, the F/F matches are definitely a lot more realistic. As a consumer, I definitely want to see M/F matches as well, but I want it to be more realistic. Admittedly, I want to see the stronger girl defeat the weaker guy, but seeing a much bigger guy being "overpowered" by a much smaller girl doesn't do it for me.

Sep 23, 2023 - edited Sep 23, 2023 - permalink

But that's the thing. If there are videos out there where he wins, I've personally yet to see a single one. He loses every single match I've seen him in. It doesn't matter if the girl is big or small. Once Sean steps up to the table, you know he's going to lose.

But everyone's right, the F/F matches are definitely a lot more realistic. As a consumer, I definitely want to see M/F matches as well, but I want it to be more realistic. Admittedly, I want to see the stronger girl defeat the weaker guy, but seeing a much bigger guy being "overpowered" by a much smaller girl doesn't do it for me.

He has 100% won some matches, but I'm talking like maybe 5 or 6 over a 15 year period. I'm struggling to think of specific matches but Sara Fiori is the biggest girl he's beaten that I can recall, and that was over a decade ago.

Sep 23, 2023 - permalink

Several matches here... which one are you most impressed with?

First was good and shows how important a good technique is , the last is good too , he gave her no chance to use her technique for advantage but she showed that this arm is pretty strong and it needs to fight her down till the end , no easy give up like the girls she put down

Sep 23, 2023 - permalink

Grace may not be a pro--at least not yet! But, she does seem to use two elements of good technique. She always uses her biceps to pull the opponent's arm away from their body. And, she always finishes her opponent off by switching to triceps power when she gets them close enough to the losing position.

Sep 29, 2023 - permalink

Sean has some physical issues, history of injuries, a trick wrist, has hand some hand surgeries and currently a partial biceps tear…we usually look for other opponents for those reasons. He has a hard time applying strength in Armwrestling. Generally, we don’t use takes where he wins or in the past when I won matches…that’s why you don’t see many.

Sep 29, 2023 - permalink

Sean has some physical issues, history of injuries, a trick wrist, has hand some hand surgeries and currently a partial biceps tear…we usually look for other opponents for those reasons. He has a hard time applying strength in Armwrestling. Generally, we don’t use takes where he wins or in the past when I won matches…that’s why you don’t see many. That's a classy way to treat those women, Mike.

Sep 30, 2023 - permalink

Sean has some physical issues, history of injuries, a trick wrist, has hand some hand surgeries and currently a partial biceps tear…we usually look for other opponents for those reasons. He has a hard time applying strength in Armwrestling. Generally, we don’t use takes where he wins or in the past when I won matches…that’s why you don’t see many.

Ok fair enough, but consider this - What about one video with multiple matches and include one match where Sean actually wins---perhaps where he's arm wrestled some of the smaller girls. The point would be to make all the other matches more believable. Even if they're fake/fantasy, there's still that illusion there since it wouldn't be as if it's all fixed.

If that's just not part of your business model, and you wouldn't do that, then what about adding some more feats of strength shoots to your portfolio. One that I've not seen on your site, but would be nice to have is apple crushing. That's where she crushes an apple in her hand. She'd obviously have to have a really strong grip in order to be able to do it, and that would mean exceptionally strong hands, wrists, and forearms. Someone like that would be really tough for an average guy to beat in a bar style arm wrestling match.

Btw, I got a VR headset and downloaded a few of the VR clips. Awesome work!! One thing I'd like to see would be to have some of the taller girls (at least 5'8 and perhaps wearing some height-enhancing shoes) tower over the camera so it gives the viewer that perspective. I say taller girls because if it's someone who's like 5'4", that might not work. But then again, perhaps other guys might like it, so don't mind me :) Anyway, love the VR content.

Oct 13, 2023 - edited Oct 13, 2023 - permalink

Liv has another will post later.

Another one:

Dec 03, 2023 - edited Dec 05, 2023 - permalink

Did she let him win in the end?

This is one of my favorite mixed armwrestling this site because the guy looks clearly embarrassed in front of the crowd for not being able to overpower the girl. While the boy fights with everything using his full body to bring her hand down to the table, the girl is only using her arm's strenght, keeping her body relaxed and erect. Her face shows she is just controliling - I don't know how much she wanted be on offensive

This is not a match between a gym rat girl x an sedentary guy. He claims in his comments he lifts weights for almost one year and have well decent lifts (210 in bench press and 35 in dumbbell curls). He is heavier than her too (172 lbs x 160lbs). There are many aspects that woudl makes any one to think he would beat her with no problems

Dec 06, 2023 - permalink

It takes a little bravery to armwrestle a girl I think. Not so much a perfect stranger. But if it’s with someone close or related to you, it can change the dynamic between you permanently

arl
Dec 07, 2023 - permalink

He doesn’t look like he can curl 35s, and I don’t think she was trying. On a separate note, she’s pretty.

Dec 07, 2023 - permalink

He doesn’t look like he can curl 35s, and I don’t think she was trying. On a separate note, she’s pretty.

I already saw a guy with his level muscularity/sieze that could curl 30 pounds. I think not always the looks match with the strength

Dec 08, 2023 - permalink

Did she let him win in the end?

This is one of my favorite mixed armwrestling this site because the guy looks clearly embarrassed in front of the crowd for not being able to overpower the girl. While the boy fights with everything using his full body to bring her hand down to the table, the girl is only using her arm's strenght, keeping her body relaxed and erect. Her face shows she is just controliling - I don't know how much she wanted be on offensive

This is not a match between a gym rat girl x an sedentary guy. He claims in his comments he lifts weights for almost one year and have well decent lifts (210 in bench press and 35 in dumbbell curls). He is heavier than her too (172 lbs x 160lbs). There are many aspects that woudl makes any one to think he would beat her with no problems

I really think she 100% let him win. She knew those guys were going to harass him forever, and she saved him from total humiliation. How nice of her.

Dec 08, 2023 - permalink

I really think she 100% let him win. She knew those guys were going to harass him forever, and she saved him from total humiliation. How nice of her.

At minute 1:11 she brings his arm back to the center pretty easily threatens to lay it down, then take a look in his eyes as if saying "now" and just stop resisting.

At 1:05 you can see his left hand shaking with the effort, while she was tapping her feet. So emasculated

Dec 09, 2023 - permalink

Don't want to burst your guy's bubble but she pretty clearly is trying to take him down at 1:01, is struggling to hold him off at 1:09 and is trying to go for the win 1:12 onwards. Even when he eventually takes her down you can see she's obviously trying to slow the descent. Still really impressive she held out for so long though.

Dec 09, 2023 - permalink

Don't want to burst your guy's bubble but she pretty clearly is trying to take him down at 1:01, is struggling to hold him off at 1:09 and is trying to go for the win 1:12 onwards. Even when he eventually takes her down you can see she's obviously trying to slow the descent. Still really impressive she held out for so long though.

Don't you think if she really wanted to win she wouldn't have use her full body like him did? I think she "tried" and wanted to win in most part in the fight, but she didn't want as much as him. My impression is she decreased pressure (probably for tedium)

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