Let's say there were one girl who is genuinely natty but is mistaken to be on steroids. Who would that be?

I’m liking these natty ladies

Dianna, because this pic just screams "natty."

I've said it before, but again, I gotta ask: why are there dudes here who are so adamant to believe that a bodybuilder or strength athlete that they follow is natural? Does it ruin your fetish to know that they take PEDs?

PEDs are not a magic bullet. You still have to train hard and keep your nutrition in check. I know quite a few people who take PEDs but still look like shit because their cycle sucks, their training is poor and their nutrition is nonexistent. In fact, people on PEDs often train harder because they enable faster recovery and allows an athlete to train harder and more frequently without overtraining and regressing or getting injured. PED use does not take away the effort and dedication these ladies put into their craft.

Yeah what he said. 👆

I think these guys that delude themselves to believe someone’s natty when they obviously aren’t just feeds their fantasy that real life amazons exist.

I think Alex Puccio is natty. I think. I do not know.

JackedupLawnGirl. She’s vegan apparently (or was when she got huge) too

Have you not heard her talk? Lolol

To quote Nate Diaz "Everybody's on steroids"

PEDs are not a magic bullet. You still have to train hard and keep your nutrition in check. I know quite a few people who take PEDs but still look like shit because their cycle sucks, their training is poor and their nutrition is nonexistent. In fact, people on PEDs often train harder because they enable faster recovery and allows an athlete to train harder and more frequently without overtraining and regressing or getting injured. PED use does not take away the effort and dedication these ladies put into their craft.

Let's not ignore the fact that PEDs help by ALOT. Just by my anecdotal evidence, I've known people that trained around the same time as me and jumped in performance in faster time than I've ever had. I really don't agree that people on PEDS train harder necessarily, but like you said, they do train for a longer time with less exhaustion. If anything a natural athlete has to be more focused in the exercise regime since they don't have the luxury of recovering quicker.

I do agree that it is dumb to care whether a female athlete is using PEDs or not. I feel like a fair amount of people on here don't realize just how much dedication it takes to be that conditioned. Not all female athletes are going to use, but I can guarantee most are really dedicated to sports performance and nutrition. Their lifestyle can be intimidating to a non-athlete.

I think Alex Puccio is natty. I think. I do not know.

Yeah, she most likely is. Have you seen her muscular development? Wow she looks really jacked for a short woman. She looks like she uses PEDs more for recovery rather muscle growth which is why she doesn't look like a heavy user.

One thing I always notice in these "natty or not" threads is that no one seems to consider dosage. It's possible that many who you think are natty are also on much smaller doses of PED's than a typical roid monster. And let's say that's true. Would it be so terrible that they aren't 100% natty?

It’s only terrible when they flat out lie and sell desperate people a program to get fitness celebrity results. Or if they call every natural a hater who just didn’t train hard enough. Those grifters aren’t seeing heaven.

For me, it'd be Dianna Blanchard. She has such minimized virilization for a girl her size it's amazing (mainly no acne and no deepened voice). I know Vladislava Galagan comes to mind for most of you, but I'd like to hear some other names. Let's discuss!

I love how nobody seems to understand this thread lol.

Anyways, my hypothetical girl would be Melinda Lindmark. Or Sophie Rodriguez. Outside of the obvious jacked muscles, they show very little signs of steroid use.

I always find it funny how in these threads people always bring up how girls like Vladi Galagan could be natural because of their face or voice, as if their preposterous musculature isn't obviously a far greater indicator of their steroid usage. Galagan at her peak is practically the size of a small male bodybuilder, how in the world could anyone believe she could be natural?

Of all the girls mentioned so far I'd say that LeanBeefPatty is the only one with even a chance of being natural. She isn't particularly big and as others have mentioned the angles she uses for her photos really oversell how jacked she is.

I think one thing that alot of people forget is SARMs, even if a girl isn't using tradional PEDs they may well be using SARMs which are known to provide the same sort of muscle growth as your tradional PEDs. LBF does openly use SARMs for example, so by the "traditional" definition of natty, ie using steroids, she is "natty".

Renne Toney definately has to be a lifetime natty :^)

Double Definitely.

I think one thing that alot of people forget is SARMs, even if a girl isn't using tradional PEDs they may well be using SARMs which are known to provide the same sort of muscle growth as your tradional PEDs. LBF does openly use SARMs for example, so by the "traditional" definition of natty, ie using steroids, she is "natty".

Carolyne Marquez also uses SARMS and claims she's natural but that's like saying you're not an axe murderer because you used a hatchet, it's just semantics.

I had a session with a Fbb who told me everyone female competitor is on steroids.

A female can not be natty and muscular

Oh I wouldn't go that far. It's more like it's not possible to be BIG and muscular without juicing. I've seen a number of lean, muscular girls who I'm sure aren't on steroids. Because their muscularity isn't particularly pronounced, and they're not very big. They just look like they work out a lot.

There's one cam girl on HBC who is likely top 5 of the biggest, and most muscular girls on HBC---while still being relatively cute. I was camming with her a couple of weeks ago, having her crush multiple large apples with her hand (that was VERY very impressive btw), and I don't remember what we were talking about and she just had to say that she's natural. Uh huh.. yeah, and I'm Arnold's mentor LOL!!! I really don't know why these girls do this. I didn't even ask her specifically, and just had to through that in there!

Amber White.

If you see her physique, she doesn't have the capped delts and thick traps which is a dead giveaway of drug use.

Her shoulders are enormous. Her bicep looks like it's ready to burst. Why would anyone think she is natural? Ain't no way she's pulling that size off with that low bodyfat.

It also doesn't help that nearly every single picture of her on the internet is from the last few months. At 1:32 in this report it shows a picture of her from a few years back and she doesn't look anywhere near as jacked.

Her shoulders are enormous. Her bicep looks like it's ready to burst. Why would anyone think she is natural? Ain't no way she's pulling that size off with that low bodyfat.

It also doesn't help that nearly every single picture of her on the internet is from the last few months. At 1:32 in this report it shows a picture of her from a few years back and she doesn't look anywhere near as jacked.

Thanks for that analysis, Stevebob. You can see the same, looking through her GWM profile. I thought this particular pic was relevant to this thread because of the comments made about it underneath.

I'm goona take a guess that Natasha Aughey is natty and has been most or all of her career. Like I think there is a case that she possibly experimented with them back during her rise but seems like she has pretty much clean most of her fitness career. But there maybe have been a time...

I went to the Arnold a few times and I had a guy tell me "bruh even the bikini stage is juicy" so yeah I think the topic should be, "Girls who used minimal PEDS enough to convince their fans they are natty but probably haven't been their while careers but currently are natural"

I'm goona take a guess that Natasha Aughey is natty and has been most or all of her career. Like I think there is a case that she possibly experimented with them back during her rise but seems like she has pretty much clean most of her fitness career. But there maybe have been a time...

I went to the Arnold a few times and I had a guy tell me "bruh even the bikini stage is juicy" so yeah I think the topic should be, "Girls who used minimal PEDS enough to convince their fans they are natty but probably haven't been their while careers but currently are natural"

No she isn’t and hasn’t been natty.

I'm goona take a guess that Natasha Aughey is natty and has been most or all of her career. Like I think there is a case that she possibly experimented with them back during her rise but seems like she has pretty much clean most of her fitness career. But there maybe have been a time...

Ok, I guess it’s not a lie if you believe it.

"I think she's natty!" [posts picture of woman with bicep vein larger than most women's arms]

I am willing to bet that the Venn diagram of dudes who think women like Natasha Aughey and Haley Van Voorhis are natty, and guys who actually compete in strength sports or who do dedicated training, are completely separate circles.

I am willing to bet that the Venn diagram of dudes who think women like Natasha Aughey and Haley Van Voorhis are natty, and guys who actually compete in strength sports or who do dedicated training, are completely separate circles.

I genuinely don't understand what about the girls mentioned in this thread is so different that makes people think they are the rare few who might be natty. LeanBeefPatty is the only one mentioned so far who doesn't effectively have the physique of a bodybuilder.

I think most people don't realise just how little muscle women can naturally pack on and keep on relative to men, especially at low bodyfat. If a girl has developed shoulders, bulging abs, or big and defined biceps (you know, the stuff that almost all the girls on this site have?) then you can be almost certain she isn't natty.