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My partner was pretty close to that 10 years ago as a natty. Stop being a hater. It does no one any good.
then your partner was on a ton of drugs too.
this is a natural bicep for a trained woman
https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/attachments/f...
this is a woman on a shit ton of steroids, literally ifbb level
https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/attachments/f...
remember women have almost zero testosterone so they don't have a way to develop a lot of muscle naturally
then your partner was on a ton of drugs too.
No drugs involved, ever. My partner
Had always been a strong girl. As a kid won shot put. Was the longest home run hitter in school at softball. Very strong legs from cycling. Her body just likes growing muscle. Until me, she thought it was a flaw not a feature.
No drugs involved, ever. My partner
- benched 60-70kg for reps
- dumbell bicep curls with 12kg for reps
- 10-15 pull ups
- deadlifted 120kg for reps
Had always been a strong girl. As a kid won shot put. Was the longest home run hitter in school at softball. Very strong legs from cycling. Her body just likes growing muscle. Until me, she thought it was a flaw not a feature.
Amazing! 10-15 pull ups are impressive! Have you ever shared any pic of her?
@joryboyd, please stop hating. I've met women IRL who have never worked out with better biceps than the one you posted as "a natural bicep for a trained woman."
It's physically impossible.
Not even a man has a bicep remotely similar to that after his peak of test around at 20 years old.
You'd be surprised how many women are/were on drugs and never admit it.
You guys are so innocent.
> > then your partner was on a ton of drugs too. >
No drugs involved, ever. My partner
- benched 60-70kg for reps
- dumbell bicep curls with 12kg for reps
- 10-15 pull ups
- deadlifted 120kg for reps
Had always been a strong girl. As a kid won shot put. Was the longest home run hitter in school at softball. Very strong legs from cycling. Her body just likes growing muscle. Until me, she thought it was a flaw not a feature.
That’s great and all. But those lifts aren’t like anything incredible whatsoever. I mean that in the sense of looking like an ifbb pro. My wife looks strong and muscular for a woman but you definitely wouldn’t think she’s on anything and crushed those numbers (except the pull ups but still). What I’m trying to say is while the poster might be with that woman, there’s basically zero chance she’s natty.
> > your imagination has failed you, shes natty
naaa
0 chance of natty with those biceps
I guess the whole story is fake you just picked up some images from maybe a facebook group?
I’m pretty sick of all the conspiracy theories about women and steroids and muscularity on this site. A little bit of research and you would learn there are several pathways to muscularity for women and men besides steroids. Let’s start with HGH for example. Heavy lifting and creatine can produce excellent results also. Women who cycle steroids are mostly on heavy lifting and creatinine most of the time because of health reasons. They usually don’t look as lean or jacked as in their IG profiles though out the year.
Genetics, fat mass, muscle mass, how long physical activity has been applied, foods eaten, environment lived in, health conditions.... all these things come into factor when it comes time to having a body on display. Not every single person is the same. Yes there are some scientific rules that apply to 99% of humans no doubt. But not one person is the same as the other. Comparing lifts, measurements, ages etc isnt even enough to form propper data.
It would take weeks of tests to properly compare 2 people against each other. I had a girlfriend in high school.... 16 years old. Never done any physical activity (played piano and shit) and definitely no steroids or peds or any form of enhancement drugs.... but she had a crazy ripped 8 pack abs, obliques, massive triceps and delts.... but somehow had cellulite on her legs and fat ass. skinny back, no muscle there and zero bicep mass..... Care to explain the science behind that ? You can't... its just how shes built. Why isnt many other females like this ? how did she get to be that way ? did she magically find steroids at the gym she never went to. Her parents didnt let her out of her sight. Damn church pastor child.
Also myself.... I drop 30kg fat mass while keeping if not building muscle... and everyone just assumed i jumped on reta/ozempic/GLP1 or something like that. I know why they think that.... its because they themselves lack the dicipline it takes to pull off something like that. The only way they see it possible is by using a drug. Same reason women get all these surgeries to look better. They didnt build it... they bought it. I get it.... weak, lazy and small mind.
I say all this in the hope that you just open your mind just alittle. No doubt some of these women are rare, i will not contest that at all. I am only saying open your mind.
don't let them fool you with long texts and explanations and theories about genetics and hard work bla bla bla.
if a girl looks too muscular assume with 99% accuracy she is on a ton shit of steroids.
force her to prove you she is natural, otherwise assume she is on steroids.
same goes for men.
no genetics or workout or creatine will make your bicep pop up like a cartoon.
the only thing that will do that is testosterone which either you inject or your natural peak is when you are young around 20 years old.
as a man.
as a woman you practically have no testosterone.
which means you will never develop visible muscle mass.
any female you see with substantial muscle mass just assume she is on gear and guess what.... you will always be right!!!
then comes the flies "oh no but genetics and ice baths with creatine and eating buffalo meat from alaska...."
ignore, back to the basics.... ----> has muscle? is on gear
is a man? -> yes -> is more than 30? -> yes -> has clear muscles? -> yes -> assume he's on gear
IT'S BETTER TO ASSUME EVERYBODY IS ON GEAR AND BE WRONG 1 EVERY 100 TIMES THAN TO ASSUME EVERYBODY COULD BE NATURAL AND BE WRONG 99 EVERY 100 TIMES.
> > then your partner was on a ton of drugs too. >
No drugs involved, ever. My partner
- benched 60-70kg for reps
- dumbell bicep curls with 12kg for reps
- 10-15 pull ups
- deadlifted 120kg for reps
Had always been a strong girl. As a kid won shot put. Was the longest home run hitter in school at softball. Very strong legs from cycling. Her body just likes growing muscle. Until me, she thought it was a flaw not a feature.
Ok, and while doing these things was she so lean she had visible veins on her abs? Of course women can put up those numbers, but the combination of mass and leanness of the pictures @Ondro718 has posted are not possible without some type of peds. I as a guy have been lifting for about 10 years. I count calories, I eat enough protein, I am not close to that lean+that muscular. I have gone to an endocrinologist and my testosterone levels are normal/slightly below average. The highest natural level of testosterone for a woman is about 5 times lower than the absolute lowest range for a man (measured at ages 60+). So I agree with @Joryboyd, she is not natural.
I take it as a compliment for her. Most of ppl that doesnt know her thinks shes on gear. She gets comments like that on insta too. On the other hand you can work out for 20 years and still look like shit. If you cant do it that doesnt mean somebody else is not capable of it. I would actually like her to try some peds because I like her to grow more. I understand your opinion but you dont know what she does. 12+ yrs of crossfit + added bodybuilding last year. 5-6 hard trainings per week, not some pussy ass bikini workouts and a lot of steps every day with the dog. Counting macros every day, no cheat days ever, no drugs, alcohol, smokes. Quality sleep and low stress does wonders too. But you can keep your opinion, doesnt matter to me.
> > then your partner was on a ton of drugs too. >
No drugs involved, ever. My partner
- benched 60-70kg for reps
- dumbell bicep curls with 12kg for reps
- 10-15 pull ups
- deadlifted 120kg for reps
Had always been a strong girl. As a kid won shot put. Was the longest home run hitter in school at softball. Very strong legs from cycling. Her body just likes growing muscle. Until me, she thought it was a flaw not a feature.
what's more likely?
that your partner is for some reason stronger than most grown up men?
or that you are just lying?
that you are just lying of course.
lol
dude this is an ifbb level bodybuilder close to a tournament.
people totally delusional believe this is a natural woman
It doesnt even have to concern you what she takes and doesnt take. I dont have to bullshit anyone, theres no benefit to it. In the end I am enjoying my life with her and you are a lonely loser.
It doesnt even have to concern you what she takes and doesnt take. I dont have to bullshit anyone, theres no benefit to it. In the end I am enjoying my life with her and you are a lonely loser.
it just annoys everybody when you lie.
that's all.
whether I suffer or I enjoy, I am a loser or a winner... has nothing to do.
you just create a fake illusion to everybody on the forum and that's sad.
> > naaa > > 0 chance of natty with those biceps > > I guess the whole story is fake you just picked up some images from maybe a facebook group?
My partner was pretty close to that 10 years ago as a natty. Stop being a hater. It does no one any good.
"Hater"???! How old are you? 14?
NOTE: Thread split from Do any guys on here have wives/girlfriends that are muscular?
I imagine she takes a nice chemistry cocktail to look like this.
do you know in detail what she takes?