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Does it shorten one’s lifespan?
If drugs less globally legal than Creatine are taken, yes.
What are the potential long-term health issues?
Premature death, among others that can make your final 5 years pretty nasty. See Ronnie Coleman.
It feels like every year a competitor has a medical emergency or passes away suddenly.
It's not just that you feel like it's happening. It IS happening.
If drugs less globally legal than Creatine are taken, yes.
Premature death, among others that can make your final 5 years pretty nasty. See Ronnie Coleman.
It's not just that you feel like it's happening. It IS happening.
Ummm, Ronnie Colemans issues have nothing to do with steroids and everything to do with the fact he continued to train like an animal after having injuries that would have ended most others careers
There are levels to this. Competing 5 years as a Bikni Ifbb Pro for 3 show per year is different than 10 years in Physique or BB aiming for the Olympia each year. You could be responsible running multiple blood tests per year, or never test at all and use gear from the bag of your gym bro.
People could shorten their lifespan more by being obese and prediabetic for 30 years than a 10 year long competitive athlete.
Natural bodybuilding being healthier is a myth. Getting your body to low levels of body fat, will still throw your hormones out of whack amongst causing other issues
Natural BB is impossible to produce any meaningful damage to your health.
Injecting various drugs into your system for competitive BB is a whole different game. Even immediate death can be a risk. No comparison between the two.
Natural BB is impossible to produce any meaningful damage to your health.
Injecting various drugs into your system for competitive BB is a whole different game. Even immediate death can be a risk. No comparison between the two.
Lol. Incredible how little knowledge people on here have about PEDs. You can inject an entire 10mL vial of testosterone (if you theoretically had a place to pin it all) and it wouldn't cause immediate death.
Ummm, Ronnie Colemans issues have nothing to do with steroids and everything to do with the fact he continued to train like an animal after having injuries that would have ended most others careers
Lifts he couldn't have achieved without steroids.
And don't "ummm", it makes you seem stupid.
Steroids aren't healthy. Extremely low body fat percentages aren't healthy. Aggressive weight cuts aren't healthy. Bodybuilding has all 3. It's exceedingly unhealthy.
Lol. Incredible how little knowledge people on here have about PEDs. You can inject an entire 10mL vial of testosterone (if you theoretically had a place to pin it all) and it wouldn't cause immediate death.
I wrote "various drugs*, meaning insulin or diuretics not steroids. Steroids as you wrote are extremely safe as a single dose, as long as are not contaminated. Competitive BB uses a plethora of substances beyond roids, even recreational drugs and painkillers. steroids pose a danger because they are not of pharma quality and quality varies.
Is it healthy: no (thats also not the purpose of that sport)
Is it risky? I am not a competitive bodybuilder, but I have seen things. When Andreas Münzer, a former Austrian bodybuilder died, the autopsy report somehow spread in the BB community. A few athletes in my gym back then stopped competing in an instant.
I have also seen a female competitor being carried away by the emergency just before the contest. It was not a nice thing to look at. And another competitor who i personally knew back then got serious health issues after returning back home. She stated that "she almost died".
People push the bounderies, same way as they do it in other competitive sports. Some get away with it, others are not so lucky.
People push the bounderies, same way as they do it in other competitive sports. Some get away with it, others are not so lucky.
What both roider groups have in common is incredible stupidity. The risk of loss of large quantities of later life, of loss of quality of the 5 or often more years before death - all for a few "Wow!"s, almost exclusively from other dudes.
About the only positive I can see is if you can...
I ain't going there. I'm not going to be an accomplice to someone ending his life early, however much that might cleanse the gene pool.
It doesn't matter.
He trained injured. His condition was brought on by stupidity. Not steroids.
Thank you for making my point. Anyone that stupid to take that amount of steroids, to be able to train as intensely, AFTER being that injured, was never going to have much quality of life so deep into life.
Steroids attract dumb people, the dumber the person, the heavier (and more reckless) the steroid use.
You're going to see, in the next 5 years or so, a new generation of natural 60-something bodybuilders overtake our drugged-up counterparts - those in the latter left alive anyway. It's not just that we'll be out of coffins/wheelchairs/off walking frames etc (though that would be reason enough to stay natural), we'll be bigger and stronger than they.
Next some buffoon is going to point to a certain old dude with a thick Austrian accent without realising he's been wealthy enough for several decades to be several decades ahead of street-level medicine, full-body MRI's weekly, Dexa scans starting when the tech was first developed, that even he hasn't been surgery-free and that out of every million mid-heavy roid users, the other 999,999 aren't smart enough or talented enough to become wealthy hollywood stars.
Lol. Incredible how little knowledge people on here have about PEDs. You can inject an entire 10mL vial of testosterone (if you theoretically had a place to pin it all) and it wouldn't cause immediate death.
Go ahead and inject 10g of every type of drug that BB use. no one will ever hear from you again except an obituary. lol
fact is the simple answer is, competitive bodybuilding at higher levels is obviously not healthy, and fairly obviously unsafe
What both roider groups have in common is incredible stupidity. The risk of loss of large quantities of later life, of loss of quality of the 5 or often more years before death - all for a few "Wow!"s, almost exclusively from other dudes.
About the only positive I can see is if you can...
I ain't going there. I'm not going to be an accomplice to someone ending his life early, however much that might cleanse the gene pool.
Not really a big fan of attributing steroid abuse to stupidity when body dysmorphia is rampant in bodybuilding spaces. It's not called a "mental disorder" because it makes your decision-making better.
Not really a big fan of attributing steroid abuse to stupidity when body dysmorphia is rampant in bodybuilding spaces. It's not called a "mental disorder" because it makes your decision-making better.
I posit that stupidity is itself a symptom of a higher, but as yet undiscovered and thus unnamed category of mental disorder. Steroid usage being merely a sub-symptom of said category and consequent stupidity.
What about all the bodybuilders that say their blood tests for the past 10+ years comes back normal and they have never been sick and are healthier than ever. Are they just lucky or outliers?
It sounds like competitive bodybuilding is like the Isle of Man TT that averages 1 to 3 deaths per year.
Long-term health wise, is competitive bodybuilding worse for men or women?
Natural bodybuilding being healthier is a myth. Getting your body to low levels of body fat, will still throw your hormones out of whack amongst causing other issues
This is nonsense.
Many top level sports can have negative consequences on the body, and low levels of fat over time can be unhealthy. However, steroids increase the risk of heart failure, increase risk of several forms of cancer, increase risk of infertility. PEDs also allow you to train through pain where the body needs a break, often athletes don’t notice injuries until they are quite severe.
Heart attacks are surprisingly common among PED users, however, there is at least one male bodybuilder whose physique was so developed that his body kept pushing blood around even when he was having a heart attack, and he survived because of it. One of the Norwegian twin bodybuilders when they were living in LA.
Natural bb is also heavy on joints and low bodyfat in periods, but the difference is immense.
Does it shorten one’s lifespan? What are the potential long-term health issues? It feels like every year a competitor has a medical emergency or passes away suddenly.