Whenever someone poses this question, they neglect one simple and glaring fact: Eight times out of ten, it's women who call fbbs manly, and unless we're talking about a woman with model looks who happens to be muscular, it most certainly doesn't stem from insecurity or jealousy.
When it comes to men, are you also insecure or an asshole if you don't like fat women? Thick ankles? Hairy arms? Or if you prefer redheads? Muscles are a masculine trait, both culturally and biologically. Accept that, embrace your fetish and carry on instead of railing against the world for finding your personal preference odd.
I think it’s a coping mechanism. Men are easily intimated by women who are physically imposing.
Granted I personally would never want to be with a woman who is roided up, has a deeper voice than me, and needs to shave their face. However, dismissing any woman with muscle as “manly” is very fragile to me.
They're not intimidated. They're just not attracted to them, and possibly repulsed, depending on the level of virilization.
I don't know about "fragile", but you also need to distinguish between a gymnast with defined abs, a broad-shouldered competitive swimmer and, say, a Monika Podgorski. There's a pretty wide gulf there.
Without further x-ray/MRI insight into the anatomy in these pictures, i could understand the thought behind those expressions about "It's a man.(? --> Sometimes those outbursts rather deserve a question mark, i think)". Broad shoulders and impressive leg size are not to be seen irl daily on women. Although 2 signs (would) speak for a woman: the hip's width and the (rather) hairlessness on the legs.
So please (everyone), ease up on bad commentary, many just got too far with some kind of (emotional?) outburst, perhaps. Do not feel dragged down by strangers! Only get worried, when close people you know won't stop t(/y)elling.
I understand the “That’s there preference” for not liking muscular women, but I feel like there’s a point where they genuinely just love to hate on fit women for no good reason. And it almost always stems from jealousy you know? And I hate to sound like this, but certain men truly do get jealous and intimidated when they see women with more muscles than them. I always thought the “as a woman, if a man thinks you’re too muscular, it’s bc your muscles are bigger” was corny and but it’s true, almost every hater of strong women end up being weaker men.
No one "loves to hate on fit women" (and, again, people insist on slyly inserting "fit women" when we're talking FBBs or women with high levels of muscularity). Most men don't spare a second thought for women they're not attracted to. They'll rib their friends who are into muscle mommies, they will react to the sight of women with bigger muscles than them the same way a woman would react to the sight of men with bigger breasts than them, and they will wonder how it would feel like to tap Vladislava Galagan without even fantasizing about being in a relationship with her.
It's not jealously or intimidation. It's just the polar opposite of attraction, and the reaction elicited is equivalent.
Women dissuade themselves, my guy. It's not deemed "a man's role" inasmuch as it's something that comes naturally and easily to men and attracts women, whereas it comes with great difficulty to women and causes them to lose the secondary sexual characteristics men are actually attracted to.
Roles don't even come into play. It's all about biology, no matter how much we sophisticate about it or act like women are all oppressed potential FBBs that are being denied some fascicled utopia by The Man.
We probably love muscular females for different reasons.
I prefer to look at them as "energetic".
Muscles on a woman makes me associate muscles with feminine attributes such as flexibility, softness, kindness, calmness, rest and flow. In other words a strong female. Hardly ever do I see any female bodybuilder who immediately strikes me as being manly.
I don't know what you mean by that considering that H3rcules is one of our more solid contributors on the forum and knows what he is talking about when it comes to strength training and bodybuilding.
I don't know him from 4dam and have no idea about his other contributions, but this thread clearly wasn't his finest moment...
I would be more understanding of conassa's take if they didn't immediately refute everyone's opinions with pseudo intellectual responses
... case in point.
I find it to be more women that say that muscular women are manly. For the most part, guys that aren’t until muscular women say “ah she’s just too muscular for me. Not my thing” stuff like that. Which is obviously cool.
More women make comments about my wife having manly shoulders and stuff. Although, according to her, when she was in high school, one boy used to calm her a man cuz of her muscles and deeper voice for a girl. I mean we all know he was just probably into her and was purposefully trying to be a jerk. But unfortunately, him saying that stuff got it in her head that she shouldn’t be muscular and was embarrassed for being the most muscular girl always. Luckily for me, and I guess because of me, she definitely loves her muscles more now.
But yeah, i feel like it’s mostly women that make the mean comments
In my opinion and experience, there is a population of both men and women who are intimidated or “hate” fit women. Why else would some people go out of their way to look up the IG accounts of fit/muscular women and leave demeaning comments? I think reasons for this are extreme insecurity and grievances that they are not attractive. I bet that almost every guy who calls buff women manly is either involuntarily single or has an ugly partner and they hate their lives. They lash out instead of improving themselves.
So this is kinda about my wife who is more of a natural bodybuilder and is muscular but obviously not on PEDs. I’m also into feet and was on a forum and posted a few pics of my wife’s feet and you could see her quads/calves/wide back. Some comments said “wow super nice feet” and a few others said “that just looks like a man’s body. It’s fake” I’ll put up a couple of the pics I posted.
So what’s everyone’s thoughts when someone that isn’t into muscles calls a muscular woman manly? I honestly got partially annoyed and partially turned on cuz that meant she was obviously pretty damn muscular.