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Has Andrea Shaw „declassified“ Natalia Kovaleva at Rising Phoenix 2025?

Has Andrea Shaw „decalssified“ Natalia Kovaleva at Rising Phoenix 2025? (295 total votes)

Yes, Andrea is in a league of her own (256, 86.8%)
No, Natalia is the better one (39, 13.2%)
Sep 15, 2025 - edited Sep 16, 2025 - permalink
MGL
Sep 15, 2025 - permalink

Unfortunately for Natalia, Andrea is just bigger and more defined than her. Look at the shoulders, the back, the tricep, etc. It’s just a big leap Natalia is going to make. She needs to improve her upper body.

Sep 15, 2025 - permalink

What the hell does being "decalssified" mean? You mean dis-classified? Or disqualified?

Sep 15, 2025 - permalink

Andrea is better in every discipline. Shoulders, abs, biceps, thighs. Unfortunately, she leaves Natalia far behind.

I wouldn't have thought there would be such a big gap between the two.

Sep 15, 2025 - permalink

Against Andrea Natalia looks like some small town league, whereas Andrea is world class!!

Sep 15, 2025 - permalink

Nobody can compete with Andrea. Angela Yeo had no business beating her and Natalia isn't even on Yeo's level.

Sep 16, 2025 - permalink
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Sep 16, 2025 - permalink

but she has those huge implants !!! and most likely sleeps with the boss....

otherwise there's absolutely no comparison.

Sep 16, 2025 - permalink

Natalia is big & sexy. But Andrea is a damn good looking woman with a far more complete and balanced physique. You can see it in these photos.

Sep 16, 2025 - permalink

Does anyone know why Angela Yeo chose not to compete this year at the Rising Phoenix?

Sep 16, 2025 - permalink

Does anyone know why Angela Yeo chose not to compete this year at the Rising Phoenix?

She won it last year & she’s been 2nd place at the Ms O for three years running. Even without winning the Olympia, I don’t think Angela really has a lot to prove. I saw the Ms O Battle video and her conditioning suggests that she might just be waiting to compete at the Ms O this year. I hope so. I think she’s an amazing competitor and a very attractive woman

Sep 16, 2025 - permalink

Yes, Anjie will be at the Ms. O. She's directly said so on her Insta, and her OF.

Wings of Strength completely changed the RP this year. It's gone from being an invite-only, high purse ($50,000 first place) competition to just another Ms. O qualifier with no real prize money ($10,000 for first, I think, maybe less).

Anjie and Ashley Jones both skipped it, they're already qualified. So is Andrea, don't know why she did it, maybe as a favor to the promoters, maybe to win it "back" from Anjie.

cgsweat
Sep 16, 2025 - permalink

($10,000 for first, I think, maybe less).

That's not even close to covering the expenses for her (whoever wins) training in the past year, let alone the additional travel expenses. At least $50k meant they could turn a profit.

Sep 16, 2025 - permalink

These photos are pretty shocking. I thought Natalia was getting close to Amazonka in terms of size but she’s notably smaller than Andrea here. This isn’t even really a competition.

Sep 17, 2025 - permalink

These photos are pretty shocking. I thought Natalia was getting close to Amazonka in terms of size but she’s notably smaller than Andrea here. This isn’t even really a competition.

Lol the people who think Natalia is ever going to win are delusional. She doesn't come close to Andrea and never will.

Sep 17, 2025 - permalink

Nat must have been using a lot of filters on those IG videos.

cgsweat
Sep 17, 2025 - permalink

In her defense, most women look small next to Andrea. I don't think too many people expected Natalia to win (except for OP and a few others who voted "no"), but I think most are wondering if she has what it takes to place in the top 3.

Sep 17, 2025 - permalink

Nat must have been using a lot of filters on those IG videos.

Amazonka also appears to use excellent filters. Compared to live videos from HBC or the current video with Larry Wheels, her muscles don't seem quite as big as they do on Insta or OF. No question about it. Amazonka has the strength of two bulls. This makes these live performances on stage all the more important. Here, the bodybuilders are shown without filters and can be compared directly with each other. And in this situation, there seems to be a surprise or two. :-)

[deleted]
Sep 18, 2025 - permalink

Wow, didn’t realize how small Natalia is compared to Andrea. She doesn’t seem like she belongs in the same stage.

Sep 18, 2025 - permalink

Andrea being six years older (!) than Natalia is more shocking than the size difference IMO…

Sep 18, 2025 - permalink

100% 👍 Natalia doesn’t come anywhere near Andrea’s level. Both physically and mentally.

Sep 18, 2025 - edited Sep 18, 2025 - permalink

Everyone looks amazing and like a winner in their own photos with no comparison.

Then they go on stage vs the actual best in the world and its usually pretty funny how miles off they are.

You see it in the men's a lot too. In their own photo with filters an angles n lgihting.

Then on stage vs the actual mr olympia(s). lol

cgsweat
Sep 18, 2025 - permalink

Still not sure what "declassified" means in this context.

Sep 18, 2025 - permalink

Still not sure what "declassified" means in this context.

I'd like to think that the word the poster was thinking of was "outclassed", rather than "declassified".

Sep 18, 2025 - permalink

Still not sure what "declassified" means in this context.

I think a native English speaker would say unmasked. Or least that's what I think

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