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So... Charlie Kirk. Did he deserve it?

Sep 12, 2025 - edited Sep 12, 2025 - permalink

Where is the "idgaf, release the Epstein files" option in the poll?

Sep 12, 2025 - permalink

Where is the "idgaf, release the Epstein files" option in the poll?

Lol, true.

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Sep 12, 2025 - permalink

Actually, nevermind, I'm going in circles at this point.

I think everything was said at this point. This thread is now turning into a politics channel, which this forum wasn't supposed to have.

Where is the "idgaf, release the Epstein files" option in the poll?

Fair point.

Sep 12, 2025 - edited Sep 12, 2025 - permalink

At the end of day we have to realize

  1. Being an American(as a Nationalist) is a matter of pride(should be). Obviously I have a bias, but i live in the greatest country - despite its imperfections. And there is a real possibility of it all crashing down owing to extreme people and ego maniacs in power.

  2. It's beholden to us, Americans to realize sooner than later...reality is, regardless of people that got duped into voting for Trump again - they are honest, smart and God fearing people...all the qualities I personally admire in a human being.

  3. Social media is noise.

I will delete my toxic response earlier. Sorry.

Sep 12, 2025 - permalink

The only thing I have to say about this is that it's just dangerous to talk politics in public. I wish it wasn't but you have a tiny minority of the population who just can't tolerate it I saw some of his videos his opinions were generally not my opinions but he had some good ideas too. he seems like a generic American conservative. but I can think of many worse youtubers. but I wouldn't kill them I would only do it in self defense and even then I would hate it

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Murder should never be a tool of politics, especially in a democratic country. American society becomes more and more polarized and it seems that it's only a matter of time, before democracy in the US, and possibly other places, collapses. Having said that, Kirk was an horrible cunt, and his views were absolutely atrocious, even for American standards. Did he deserve it? Nobody deserves to get murdered. Do I feel sorry for him? Well, empathy is supposedly a woke idea. At least that's what that Kirk said.

Sep 12, 2025 - permalink

The left are the ones pushing further and further to the left, the right stands where it always stood.

That's just untrue. If you compare Bushes or McCain to Trump, the former 3 sound like lefties. Present day the Republicans have come to a point where Trump announces an ethnic cleansing in Gaza and nobody bats an eyelid.

Sep 12, 2025 - edited Sep 12, 2025 - permalink

No he didn't deserve to get murdered and the footage was brutal. The killer, who is a straight white young Christian(-adjacent)/Mormon man raised in a Conservative pro-gun family, has thankfully been caught though!

+1 on the "release the Epstein files" option

Sep 12, 2025 - permalink

No he didn't deserve to get murdered and the footage was brutal. The killer, who is a straight white young Christian(-adjacent)/Mormon man raised in a Conservative pro-gun family, has thankfully been caught though!

+1 on the "release the Epstein files" option

Well, 42 percent of Utahns are LDS and at least 60 percent are raised LDS.

Sep 12, 2025 - permalink

Ok, so since the killer has been caught, I would like to address that 15% of people that voted in favour of murdering Charlie Kirk, as well as all the people that took the "I don't support murder, BUT" route...

I understand that for the past few days you've been really hopeful your guy will get away with the rightious act of political assassination. Unfortunately, the evil police has caught him and soon enough he will be sentenced to death. This must be a great loss for the liberals, so I want you to know that from the bottom of my heart, I don't feel sorry for him, or your dying party in the slightest.

Keep at it and you'll lose every election.

Duces

So, to get your point straight… you think we should feel bad for someone who was killed for his actions all while you DONT feel sorry for someone else. Grow up.

Sep 12, 2025 - permalink

I think the energy he put out verbally was the energy that was returned to him physically.

I don't think he deserved to be shot, but the marginalized groups he talked down on all the time didn't deserve to be constantly targeted by someone with such a huge platform.

Sep 12, 2025 - permalink

Are we quite done with this vile topic?

Sep 12, 2025 - permalink

First off, I'm a german living in another european country. This might be taken into account.

I did not vote (yet?), because I have not made a final decision. I am currently leaning more towards "he did not deserve it", but as I wrote that is not final.

I am explicitly NOT comparing Charlie Kirk with the people I will mention, I am just trying to make a point: What would this vote look like, if the name would be "Adolf Hitler" or "Osama bin Laden"? Would we discuss if they deserved it? Probably not. What I am tyring to say here is: there is a certain threshold where probably everyone of us would say: yes, for the greater good he deserved it.

And to bring the cunt back - yes. He definitely was a cunt. A huge one even. Someone who thinks their 10-year old daughter should carry the baby of a rapist is a cunt. Comparing abortion to the Holocaust? Cunt. Calling gay people an "error"? Cunt. Saying gay people should be stoned (according to gods "perfect" law)? Huge cunt. Being anxious because the pilot flying your plane is black? Racist cunt. Roughly 130 people shot everyday in the US are worth the 2nd amendment? Those people are fathers, mothers, children too... Cunt.

So he definitely is one who has been "demonizing those with whom you disagree" to reference the POTUS.

So maybe I don't think he deserved to be killed like that - but I will definitely not mourn.

Funny that all the answers to the question from whoever asked this topic are here and the moderator conveniently decided to "ignore" this answer...

Sep 12, 2025 - permalink

I've always loved the welcoming and uniting effect of politics. Didn't excpect the real world to infect our shared Gondolin. Unsubbed. Sadly.

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