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I'd say that you might find a good therapist and lay out your soul to the professional rather than the rabble here.
that's the nature of all sexual content, eventually the novelty wears off and you need more and more shocking imagery
it's hardly a "fetish" to be attracted to strong physically fit bodies
For reasons like this (thank you ThatGuy) seeing a good therapist should help you wend your way through your conflicting emotions / ideas and learn that you are just fine.
Maybe for me I think I am going too far with bdsm like things at least when I comes to art and stories. I watch a lot of violent stuff it's all fiction but sometimes I am worried about the morality of sexualized violence and people trying to recreate it in real life. fortunately every mixed wrestling video I have seen so far didn't result in any injuries the worst thing that happened was people getting knocked out. When it comes to muscle mass I like them as big as possible but they should have very basic femininity. it doesn't take much even Natalia Amazonska looks feminine enough it's really just about style
I'd say that you might find a good therapist and lay out your soul to the professional rather than the rabble here.
Agreed. There is nothing wrong with having a fetish for muscle, even "extreme" muscle to the point of complete fantasy, but if it's having a negative impact on your mental wellbeing, then I highly recommend professional therapy over responses in this sub and especially over NoFap.
And I will say that on the grand scale of things, having a fetish for muscle, even extreme muscle growth, is relatively vanilla compared to a lot of other fetishes, kinks and fantasies out there.
When I first ventured into the world of female muscle, I only liked Instagram fitness models with abs, massive glutes, bolt-on breasts, but not much muscle - women who were 100% natty, I was revolted at the idea of steroids.
Then, it was Crossfit-esque physiques where there was much more muscle - women who likely were not natty, but displayed no signs of physical virilization. I would have preferred if they were natty, but didn't mind too much if they were. I still loved butts and tits, it was still the bigger the merrier.
Then, it got to bodybuilder physiques with blatantly obvious use of PEDs but a few tolerable signs of virilization like acne, voice changes, and a leaner face. "The uncanny zone", if you will, where a woman's gender starts to blur. Found butts and tits less attractive, began to lean towards small walnut glutes and pecs.
Then, I threw all reservations out of the window. No amount of virilization was too much. I started to find hair loss hot. Some body hair growth, too. Women on here became UNHOT to me unless they resembled somewhat of a man in physique and looks. Breast transplants were an instant turn off for me, as were any extra fat in the chest and butt region. Only found hardcore pecs and walnut glutes attractive. I would also begin imagining them without makeup on and as futanari.
I decided it was going too far and started NoFap in an attempt to calm my brain down, but caved in after two weeks. Here's where it got out of control. I started to find myself photoshopping female faces on male bodybuilder physiques, with male appendage and all. Essentially, I have been getting off to actual men with fake faces of women.
I fear my next step is finding actual men hot. I don't, so far. I'm not homophobic, but it's a scary thought that a straight guy like me could be radicalized like this. I would have to live down with this fetish because my culture allows for nothing other than a straight marriage/relationship.
Hoping someone relates. Need someone to talk to about this, at a very weird point in my life.
You're in the closet and that's OK. But based on how you've presented your case, it's almost like you're telling the forum that you are the property of your culture. Am I misreading you on that?
As for therapy, if you are the property of your culture, you should probably seek help from someone outside that group.
And as for seeking support and advice here, that's OK, too. A lot of people like to play the "go to therapy" card like it's some sort of cure-all, but the crowd is infinitely smarter than any single individual. The odds of any professional therapist you find having gone through what you're dealing with is very small. The chances of you finding a sympathetic ear here on this forum are much greater.
In closing, I think it took no small amount of courage for you to share this. I think the fact that you have chosen to be so honest with yourself will bode well for you in the future. Navigating your culture won't be easy, but your self-awareness will help you to be as true as possible to yourself.
You're in the closet and that's OK. But based on how you've presented your case, it's almost like you're telling the forum that you are the property of your culture. Am I misreading you on that?
As for therapy, if you are the property of your culture, you should probably seek help from someone outside that group.
And as for seeking support and advice here, that's OK, too. A lot of people like to play the "go to therapy" card like it's some sort of cure-all, but the crowd is infinitely smarter than any single individual. The odds of any professional therapist you find having gone through what you're dealing with is very small. The chances of you finding a sympathetic ear here on this forum are much greater.
In closing, I think it took no small amount of courage for you to share this. I think the fact that you have chosen to be so honest with yourself will bode well for you in the future. Navigating your culture won't be easy, but your self-awareness will help you to be as true as possible to yourself.
thank you for this response. i do feel like a property of my culture because my entire family is heavily homophobic. my uncle who got married to a man 20 years ago is never invited to family functions. people on here have been very helpful, ive gotten good dms and responses.
as someone who has had a similar experience, i don't think you are gay. it's obviously important to you that these people you are imagining in your fantasies are women, even if they have the bodies of men. whether that's any comfort to you, idk. ever since covid, i've delved deeper and deeper into the world you describe and i don't feel good about it either. i'm attracted to things i never realized i was and it disturbs me and makes the prospect of having a real relationship with a woman feel less possible. i'm in therapy myself and i talk about some of this stuff with my therapist. i guess where i'm at now is that i know there are developmental reasons why i'm into the stuff i'm into, and i'm hoping that as i move through the therapeutic process and grow in the understanding of where my fetishes come from, that they will diminish in their power over me.
on a sidenote, i'm thankful that so far this thread has been thoughtful and respectful. i feel like this site could be a good forum for these kinds of more serious topics but so often people start attacking and mocking each other.
You're not gay. You're not becoming gay. Here's how I know:
Straight guys on here like muscular women, obviously. They probably also like Margot Robbie. Or young Selma Hayek. And that hot waitress at the restaurant. And random girls on the street. Although they have a kink and maybe a preference for fit women, they probably like a large spectrum of them. And if they're in a relationship, that person is way more likely to be typical or curvy or thin instead of jacked. It's okay, they can still make it work. They like women. They're straight.
If you're going to be properly gay, then it works in the opposite direction. Sure you might really like Dwayne Johnson or Chris Hemsworth. But you also find normal dudes hot and some skinny dudes hot and maybe your boyfriend is a little bit fat but he makes you laugh, and so on. You're gay, so you're attracted to a wide specturm of men.
You have a powerful kink. You're not the first guy to like Futanari or Femboys. You're not the first guy to enjoy the sight of a penis. It's a fetish for sure, and there might be some deep seeded reasons for it, but ultimately who cares. This is a fantasy that you enjoy, it makes you happy, and you should do it without shame.
I'm bisexual, and I knew that I was that way when I started finding a whole spectrum of people sexy - from both genders. I've been in relationships with people of both genders. To be really LGBT, you need to be able to date and relate to the objects of your affection. Not just have a singular erotic vision of them.
You sound very mentally keyed into one specific - and mostly impossible - body type. It's a fantasy, just like guys who like giantesses, and I don't think it reflects your overall sexuality.
From my western background,i would advise you to have a talk with a proffesional, not saying your sick or so. They probably can help you with the strugle you seem to be in and help you to put your mind at ease. It doesn't automaticly mean that you have to have treatment....or that there is something wrong with you. On the other hand, talking to a therapist or psychologist is pretty normal in most Western cultures, while some other cultures see that diferently. Mental things are sometimes seen as a punisment by god. In other its seen like confessing that your nuts etc etc. Which makes talking to a proffesional a lot harder
Personaly I think the sugestion by tre_sayer that you are in the closset (or not) is up to you and not up to someone reading this. The answer to al this is inside you and some neutral help might help you. A good pro is trained to be more neutral and thats not the case with the opinions of all of us. Suggestions by us saying your this or that, or do this or that dont help that much.
Not saying that our intentions arn't good....but diferent opinions might make it more confusing for you
I love this post and the replies by all, gives me hope that no matter how down you feel, there are humans like you who can make you chin and feel better 🙂. Yaay to Gwm members !!!
I appreciate this post so much because I sometimes wonder about similar things. I have found that I am attracted to muscle, more so on women, but I do appreciate guys who are muscular, at least to some extent. I wouldn't say I am gay and I think "Muscles_Toez" made a good point there. For me, I wonder if because most of my and I imagine others experience is just on the internet. It is so rare to see anyone remotely muscular in real life, even among guys. Women is even rarer, unless one books a session.
While muscular women are my main thing, I think women who display any sort of physical strength to be attractive, such as crossfitters or powerlifters. Honestly, my ideal would be a big, chunky powerlifting woman if I am being honest but even those are rare in the wild.
Most probably need therapy. I have considered using Betterhelp or something and maybe I should use it instead of just posting on the internet. It is a lot of things, as I think my interest sort of prevents me from having real relationships with women since there are hardly any women with any real interest in even lifting weights. As it is I am 46 years old and am on a path to die alone, despite making tremendous strides to improve my health and general well being.
Most probably need therapy. I have considered using Betterhelp or something and maybe I should use it instead of just posting on the internet. It is a lot of things, as I think my interest sort of prevents me from having real relationships with women since there are hardly any women with any real interest in even lifting weights. As it is I am 46 years old and am on a path to die alone, despite making tremendous strides to improve my health and general well being.
I'd avoid Betterhelp, unless you want Facebook ads targeted directly to your insecurities. They've been bouncing from controversy to controversy for the past few years. https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/20...
Not really, the furthest I would go would be someone like Vladislava Galagan, after that point I just start getting repulsed. Also, the lower the body fat percentage a woman has, the uglier she becomes in my opinion, especially if they have massive muscles from steroid abuse. Something in my brain just finds that kind of stuff nasty and freaky. My ideal woman right now would be one that looks like this chick, and I don't think I'm ever going to go further than this.
Porn seems to be like this, where, for some people the more they consume it, there's an escalation where you need to start watching weirder and weirder shit in order to keep getting turned on. It seems to be a common thing. If you don't like where it's going, like anything, you need to take steps to cut back.
If you're not aware of the Kinsey Scale, it suggests that most people fall on the spectrum in between heterosexual and homosexual. In fact, the findings are pretty conclusive that most people are not 100% straight or gay (despite what they may or may not admit out loud) and that many of us have the capability to find varying levels of human traits and characteristics physically attractive.
At least knowing this helped me reconcile some of my conflicting feelings, and I was able to accept that I'm bisexual. I definitely have days where I'm extremely attracted to women, and days where I'm attracted to men.
And yeah, maybe throughout our years, our scales will slide a bit as we develop, or as we discover new kinks and fascinations.
To answer your overall question, no, it doesn't really worry me. But at one point it did. Like many others have said, I think therapy might be a good option to at least get your feelings out to a professional. Whatever you choose to do, it's extremely horrible feeling like you can't be your true self and let it depress you. I hope you find some peace with whatever you decide is right.
When I first ventured into the world of female muscle, I only liked Instagram fitness models with abs, massive glutes, bolt-on breasts, but not much muscle - women who were 100% natty, I was revolted at the idea of steroids.
Then, it was Crossfit-esque physiques where there was much more muscle - women who likely were not natty, but displayed no signs of physical virilization. I would have preferred if they were natty, but didn't mind too much if they were. I still loved butts and tits, it was still the bigger the merrier.
Then, it got to bodybuilder physiques with blatantly obvious use of PEDs but a few tolerable signs of virilization like acne, voice changes, and a leaner face. "The uncanny zone", if you will, where a woman's gender starts to blur. Found butts and tits less attractive, began to lean towards small walnut glutes and pecs.
Then, I threw all reservations out of the window. No amount of virilization was too much. I started to find hair loss hot. Some body hair growth, too. Women on here became UNHOT to me unless they resembled somewhat of a man in physique and looks. Breast transplants were an instant turn off for me, as were any extra fat in the chest and butt region. Only found hardcore pecs and walnut glutes attractive. I would also begin imagining them without makeup on and as futanari.
I decided it was going too far and started NoFap in an attempt to calm my brain down, but caved in after two weeks. Here's where it got out of control. I started to find myself photoshopping female faces on male bodybuilder physiques, with male appendage and all. Essentially, I have been getting off to actual men with fake faces of women.
I fear my next step is finding actual men hot. I don't, so far. I'm not homophobic, but it's a scary thought that a straight guy like me could be radicalized like this. I would have to live down with this fetish because my culture allows for nothing other than a straight marriage/relationship.
Hoping someone relates. Need someone to talk to about this, at a very weird point in my life.