Crossfit drug testing policy

https://s3.amazonaws.com/crossfitpublicconten...

i don't see how this is relevant to anything. unless you have a discussion point to bring up in the very near future, the thread will be locked.

The site itself isn't malicious (it's just Amazon) although I can't speak as to the PDF itself. Regardless, I also don't see the point of this post...

Document is from 2016. Just as useless as Crossfit drug testing itself

Apologies - I forgot to include the latest policy update so that interested individuals can see whether there has been a progression what CF is trying to do:

https://games.crossfit.com/drug-policy

i don't see how this is relevant to anything. unless you have a discussion point to bring up in the very near future, the thread will be locked.

I'm not really that vested. I saw the usual posted on this Mal O'Brien pic today and since I had never seen any text here regarding that company's drug testing policies, I shared the links. I don't care who uses what, but since the accusations flow non-stop, I think discussions of any organization's practices or policies should have some identifiable basis. If the same accusers want to argue that there's still a zero-basis for legitimacy of the drug-testing program because they police themselves, that's fine, too.

https://games.crossfit.com/article/complete-l... - Even if one doesn't think the program is very comprehensive, I personally think the transparency of who's been sanctioned and why and for how long gives Crossfit at least some modicum of legitimacy. That doesn't mean thousands of competitors are not 2 steps ahead at all times, but a possible 4-year suspension has to be a deterrent for some.

Not getting busted in Crossfit is a simple IQ test. Most of the testing happens at the Games, and OOC tests happen so rarely and with a 24-hour notice that people can juice pretty much as much as they want during off-season, yet still reap the benefits of that come Games. Furthermore, as long as one stays within certain limits, the tests don't even come back positive. Micro-dosing does require proper programming, however.

People need to remember that first and foremost, Crossfit is a business. As such, Crossfit has no real incentive to out their athletes, which are selling a product. Would people be as inclined to take up Crossfit if all off their athletes were 50% smaller and less shredded? Their athletes performing 'superhuman' feats is in Crossfit's best interest, which is why their drug-testing policy is designed to look legit without actually being legit. If catching people was the goal, they'd have to dramatically ramp up testing frequency, fully comply with WADA and NADOs such as USADA, and run a full ABP. Yet, they are doing none of that, because it would be utterly stupid to do so from a business perspective.

yeah, CrossFit is full of drugs, there is no way around it. The amount of abuse those athletes go through would definitely require something to help them recover. Some of the women are now crossing the line of mainstream appeal. it is a sport that almost anybody can do and they market it that way but when you get some of these women all juiced up, we are at the bodybuilding problem. Too much PED usage and it turns off fans, sponsorships and money.

CrossFit Games athletes are to CrossFit what Tom Cruise is to Scientology. They're there to get people in the door. They're going to have a bodybuilding-like regimen which is not what you get when you join a box. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the Games athletes also trained at a regular gym like Gold's.

If there's money involved, there're drugs involved.

Some fans, though...I don't understand why anyone has to put up a natty pedestal to worship at. Professional sports are full of drugs. Big deal: move on and enjoy the show.

(Not getting into the subject of fake natties as a sales vehicle for product, of course)

Great points have already been made, and the funny thing is that it is much easier to get busted for marijuana than it is for PEDS. It’s not that hard to beat drug tests.

Also, you will never see a figurehead name in CrossFit get busted. The most prominent athletes who got popped were Ricky Garard and Emily Abbott, but I highly doubt you’ll ever see anyone else near their levels get hit. The odds of Tia, Mal or Justin getting hit with a failed drug test are practically nil

I have a little experience with high level athletes in several sports include track which is a sport deservedly notorious for PED use, even with super strict testing, especially for US athletes.

Just like cycling with blood doping, there is a no other performance sport with a higher benefit for PED use than crossfit-style competitions. PEDS help you train harder and RECOVER FASTER, which is a prerequisite for doing well in a multi-day crossfit comp. And you don't have use them day of, if you end your cycle a few weeks before the competition you are probably good. Anything past a local competition and a majority of the elite participants have taken PEDs with the past 3-6 months. Its one reason why I doubt crossfit will even become an Olympic sport, no one wants the out of contest testing requirement.

I saw a doc where I think the founder or CEO (or whatever) of CrossFit basically walked around the PED question. They test day of. Stop taking them weeks prior and you’re fine. Off season..game on. All sports either use them or come very close and sit on the line. Your job is to perform physically. Anything that gets you an advantage will be done

alanna fisk was a "name" that got popped a few years ago and she got a 4 year suspension, to which she takes issue (of course). it probably wasn't even that much of a trace but they "did their due diligence" and someone got in trouble to make a dog and pony show of it

I have a little experience with high level athletes in several sports include track which is a sport deservedly notorious for PED use, even with super strict testing, especially for US athletes.

Just like cycling with blood doping, there is a no other performance sport with a higher benefit for PED use than crossfit-style competitions. PEDS help you train harder and RECOVER FASTER, which is a prerequisite for doing well in a multi-day crossfit comp. And you don't have use them day of, if you end your cycle a few weeks before the competition you are probably good. Anything past a local competition and a majority of the elite participants have taken PEDs with the past 3-6 months. Its one reason why I doubt crossfit will even become an Olympic sport, no one wants the out of contest testing requirement.

I mean, hell, Weightlifting was removed from the 2028 Summer Olympics due to issues concerning doping. If the Olympics is having issues with drugs in Weightlifting, especially given that Olympic testing is much stricter than CrossFit, there is no chance it will ever rise to anything more than where it is at)

I think the only real benefit to significantly increasing testing frequency would be increased billing for the labs. Would CrossFit be more profitable if they eliminated their testing program altogether? Or is the appearance of propriety a requirement for the corporate sponsorships they seek?

I'm at a loss as to why weightlifting was booted from the Olympics. Sometimes, we just need own our hypocrisy and roll with it.

Part of me wants to say, fuck it. Just stop testing. Drop the facade. Pro athletes juice and the more money they make the more they can juice.

It's been around for so long that trying to do anything about it now would be too costly and destructive. You'd have to rebuild everything from the ground up and erase the record books. And even then, given enough time, the athletes will find a way to sneak the PEDs back into their regime.

Part of me wants to say, fuck it. Just stop testing. Drop the facade. Pro athletes juice and the more money they make the more they can juice.

The problem with saying fuck it that means athletes who want to stay clean get screwed over, but thy are not gonna win anyway as it is now so i say fuck it too. Its not the drug use that bothers me its the bullshit.