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Heather Armbrust on schmoes

Apr 14, 2022 - permalink

speaking of being settled/normal. you proved him right.

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Apr 14, 2022 - permalink

Please no political meltdowns.

Apr 14, 2022 - permalink

Maybe people are reading a different interview than the one posted. But in this one Heather, like every single other FBB, states that she hates schmoes but she loves their money. That's the one sentence summary, without all the contradictions and hypocritical dressing up.

In her own words.... "...it is undeniably creepy, yes" ... "Is it creepy to me that he wants to wrestle me.. yes, but I don’t judge that" (she just did)

"It does take away from the fact that these are talented athletes but fbb and some male don’t get the respect from the industry that they should anyhow which is obvious in its lack of financial support" (so your talented FBBs have to put up with those creepy schmoes, get tarnished, because no other legitimate business is willing to sponsor them)

"I know that the top pros get much less weird schmoe related shit." (same idea, disgusting and should be minimized but money is money)

"Some of those same people are at home with their kiddy porn. Sexual drive makes the world go round.. it motivates and sells. Its all in how you want to look at it." (so creepy that only a comparison with pedophiles can make her tolerate it and make the sale)

"There are things that do creep me out but I don’t give it energy. I may get a little pissed at it for a second, shudder, then I move on." (max hypocrisy, she hates it but money is good)

"I fucking hate being asked shit like will you put me in scissors......" (multiple times she told you that she hates your guts)

And as a final note here is her advice to you creepy, disgusting, shitty schmoes. "I do have what may be considered schmoe fans but that’s cool with me as long as they are respectful and don’t talk stupid.....My advice to the schmoes is to at least go lift some fucking weights.... Oh and done some personal flexing videos..."

In case you need a translation of her advice, stop being a schmoe, keep the super creepy stuff to yourself, man up lift and grow some muscles and pay up top dollar for flex videos that are now posted by the thousands every day on social media. She wants your money.

You're absolutely right

Apr 14, 2022 - permalink

Please no political meltdowns.

Because one side ALWAYS has the meltdowns.

Apr 14, 2022 - permalink

Because one side ALWAYS has the meltdowns.

Truth spoken.

Apr 14, 2022 - permalink

Maybe people are reading a different interview than the one posted. But in this one Heather, like every single other FBB, states that she hates schmoes but she loves their money. That's the one sentence summary, without all the contradictions and hypocritical dressing up.

In her own words.... "...it is undeniably creepy, yes" ... "Is it creepy to me that he wants to wrestle me.. yes, but I don’t judge that" (she just did)

"It does take away from the fact that these are talented athletes but fbb and some male don’t get the respect from the industry that they should anyhow which is obvious in its lack of financial support" (so your talented FBBs have to put up with those creepy schmoes, get tarnished, because no other legitimate business is willing to sponsor them)

"I know that the top pros get much less weird schmoe related shit." (same idea, disgusting and should be minimized but money is money)

"Some of those same people are at home with their kiddy porn. Sexual drive makes the world go round.. it motivates and sells. Its all in how you want to look at it." (so creepy that only a comparison with pedophiles can make her tolerate it and make the sale)

"There are things that do creep me out but I don’t give it energy. I may get a little pissed at it for a second, shudder, then I move on." (max hypocrisy, she hates it but money is good)

"I fucking hate being asked shit like will you put me in scissors......" (multiple times she told you that she hates your guts)

And as a final note here is her advice to you creepy, disgusting, shitty schmoes. "I do have what may be considered schmoe fans but that’s cool with me as long as they are respectful and don’t talk stupid.....My advice to the schmoes is to at least go lift some fucking weights.... Oh and done some personal flexing videos..."

In case you need a translation of her advice, stop being a schmoe, keep the super creepy stuff to yourself, man up lift and grow some muscles and pay up top dollar for flex videos that are now posted by the thousands every day on social media. She wants your money.

This is correct. And here she is years after this interview doing Awefilms videos.

Apr 16, 2022 - permalink

Maybe people are reading a different interview than the one posted. But in this one Heather, like every single other FBB, states that she hates schmoes but she loves their money. That's the one sentence summary, without all the contradictions and hypocritical dressing up.

In her own words.... "...it is undeniably creepy, yes" ... "Is it creepy to me that he wants to wrestle me.. yes, but I don’t judge that" (she just did)

"It does take away from the fact that these are talented athletes but fbb and some male don’t get the respect from the industry that they should anyhow which is obvious in its lack of financial support" (so your talented FBBs have to put up with those creepy schmoes, get tarnished, because no other legitimate business is willing to sponsor them)

"I know that the top pros get much less weird schmoe related shit." (same idea, disgusting and should be minimized but money is money)

"Some of those same people are at home with their kiddy porn. Sexual drive makes the world go round.. it motivates and sells. Its all in how you want to look at it." (so creepy that only a comparison with pedophiles can make her tolerate it and make the sale)

"There are things that do creep me out but I don’t give it energy. I may get a little pissed at it for a second, shudder, then I move on." (max hypocrisy, she hates it but money is good)

"I fucking hate being asked shit like will you put me in scissors......" (multiple times she told you that she hates your guts)

And as a final note here is her advice to you creepy, disgusting, shitty schmoes. "I do have what may be considered schmoe fans but that’s cool with me as long as they are respectful and don’t talk stupid.....My advice to the schmoes is to at least go lift some fucking weights.... Oh and done some personal flexing videos..."

In case you need a translation of her advice, stop being a schmoe, keep the super creepy stuff to yourself, man up lift and grow some muscles and pay up top dollar for flex videos that are now posted by the thousands every day on social media. She wants your money.

Agree with you

Apr 16, 2022 - permalink

Heather always had the greatest legs in the business, but let's be real: she's been kinda batshit for a while now.

I'd take what she says with a humongous grain of salt. There are some really literate and eloquent women in the scene (Sunny Andrews, Ida Bergfoth, Paige Sandgren, etc), but Heather sadly isn't one of them.

If you find her hot, then buy what she's selling. I wouldn't read into it too much.

Apr 16, 2022 - edited Apr 16, 2022 - permalink

Heather always had the greatest legs in the business, but let's be real: she's been kinda batshit for a while now.

I'd take what she says with a humongous grain of salt. There are some really literate and eloquent women in the scene (Sunny Andrews, Ida Bergfoth, Paige Sandgren, etc), but Heather sadly isn't one of them.

If you find her hot, then buy what she's selling. I wouldn't read into it too much.

What Heather said in that interview, or tried to obfuscate, is true for every single FBB. These are their opinions and feelings for schmoes.

If some of them are more eloquent and can dress up the situation better is irrelevant of what their true feelings are.

Sunny Andrews sold porn in some camsite, for some less muscular athletes this might be an option, but their true target audience and money pool are schmoes. As long as they want their money they have to put up with their requests and fetishes but you cannot change the fact that they hate them and themselfs for doing that.

Apr 16, 2022 - permalink

I thought Heather Armbrust would be more kinky or different but it's just the usual stuff she is into its kind of funny

i think it would be easier for me to date fashion models than a fbb because i am stronger than them

with fbbs being so rare finding one with a different taste in men is super rare probably only a handful in the world

Most women like strong men that is usually not a problem because it am stronger than most women but if the woman is strong then she is going to want a really strong guy not a normal one.

Apr 24, 2022 - permalink

Kinda strange that she thinks its wierd that peoplewant to wrestle her or other muscle women. Wrestling with girls is one of the first thing a boy does with a girl when he is young and fancies her,and it is usually the girl that engages first. Also if you love muscular women why would you want them to behave like delicate flowers? You want to see and feel that power right? thats part of the turn on. Being submissive sometimes to women during sex is also a turn on. Its completely normal to want to wrestle Heather or have her squeeze your head between her legendary legs.

Apr 25, 2022 - permalink

Kinda strange that she thinks its wierd that peoplewant to wrestle her or other muscle women. Wrestling with girls is one of the first thing a boy does with a girl when he is young and fancies her,and it is usually the girl that engages first. Also if you love muscular women why would you want them to behave like delicate flowers? You want to see and feel that power right? thats part of the turn on. Being submissive sometimes to women during sex is also a turn on. Its completely normal to want to wrestle Heather or have her squeeze your head between her legendary legs.

I really, really think that you can't read into it that much.

Enormous muscles come easily for Heather. Coherent & reasoned responses... not so much. She's really all over the place with her replies.

I think the big lesson here is to never, ever express a negative sentiment when you're in the business of selling something. Regardless of how she feels, the best response is: "I'm so grateful to all of my fans, they're absolutely wonderful people. Next question."

Apr 25, 2022 - permalink

I really, really think that you can't read into it that much.

Enormous muscles come easily for Heather. Coherent & reasoned responses... not so much. She's really all over the place with her replies.

I think the big lesson here is to never, ever express a negative sentiment when you're in the business of selling something. Regardless of how she feels, the best response is: "I'm so grateful to all of my fans, they're absolutely wonderful people. Next question."

Eh, in a way, I kind of respect the honesty even if it something that a lot of “schmoes” don’t necessarily want to hear. One thing I can’t stand about contemporary social media is how “fake” and contrived all of it is. A lot of the things that fitness influencers and athletes post is just motivational feel-good cringe. And maybe it’s because I’m into lifting, but I did get a chuckle when she said “the best advice I can give to a schmoe is to lift some fucking weights.”

Though to be fair to her, the Muscleweek interviewer did ask a pretty loaded question (“let’s talk about the schmoes who are social rejects and have never slept with a woman!”) Yeah, there are plenty out there who have the social skills and tact of a brick wall, but it is kind of shitty to word your question like that. The interviewer was definitely egging her on.

fp909
Apr 25, 2022 - permalink

i'm sure there are plenty of guys on this site that are great with women and aren't social rejects so definitely a loaded question.

its more likely they're only experience is through screencapped messages that women get and the footage of the very uh, weird, msucle event that happened in Europe a few years ago which looked awkward AF

Apr 25, 2022 - permalink

its more likely they're only experience is through screencapped messages that women get and the footage of the very uh, weird, msucle event that happened in Europe a few years ago which looked awkward AF

What event was that?

Apr 25, 2022 - permalink

She is in a love hate relationship with fans because she is in a love hate relationship with herself.

Sure you can look at it from this angle: lots of creepy guys, not capable of expressing themselfes, sneeking around in dark corners at fitness fairs. The bald accountent who never had sex with a woman was mentioned. And vice versa: Most of the female bodybuilders are mentally ill, selfish, over critical and have done plenty of physical damage to their bodies (from hair loss, beard growth, acne, bad smell etc.).

Alternatively we could also live according to the principle: "strong together instead of weak apart". We could find lots of good things in each other. The guys who spend the money, have earned their money first. Which means we not only act socially responsible, but also gain life experience through work. Some fans are well travelled, others have an interesting job. Some speak a few languages, others are great artists. There are guys who do some sports (playing soccer, or scuba diving), and then there are most likely many IT experts who can help the ladies with their Page setup. Vice versa: the amazing bodies all have an interesting story, some ladies also have been through something in life. They come around, get to know new places, work with photografers and so on.

I prefer the latter.

Apr 25, 2022 - permalink

She is in a love hate relationship with fans because she is in a love hate relationship with herself.

Sure you can look at it from this angle: lots of creepy guys, not capable of expressing themselfes, sneeking around in dark corners at fitness fairs. The bald accountent who never had sex with a woman was mentioned. And vice versa: Most of the female bodybuilders are mentally ill, selfish, over critical and have done plenty of physical damage to their bodies (from hair loss, beard growth, acne, bad smell etc.).

Alternatively we could also live according to the principle: "strong together instead of weak apart". We could find lots of good things in each other. The guys who spend the money, have earned their money first. Which means we not only act socially responsible, but also gain life experience through work. Some fans are well travelled, others have an interesting job. Some speak a few languages, others are great artists. There are guys who do some sports (playing soccer, or scuba diving), and then there are most likely many IT experts who can help the ladies with their Page setup. Vice versa: the amazing bodies all have an interesting story, some ladies also have been through something in life. They come around, get to know new places, work with photografers and so on.

I prefer the latter.

Wow, well said. Totally agree.

Apr 25, 2022 - permalink

I think the big lesson here is to never, ever express a negative sentiment when you're in the business of selling something. Regardless of how she feels, the best response is: "I'm so grateful to all of my fans, they're absolutely wonderful people. Next question."

I completely get what you're saying, and what you're saying in this section is mostly true and correct, but...

Eh, in a way, I kind of respect the honesty even if it something that a lot of “schmoes” don’t necessarily want to hear. One thing I can’t stand about contemporary social media is how “fake” and contrived all of it is. A lot of the things that fitness influencers and athletes post is just motivational feel-good cringe. And maybe it’s because I’m into lifting, but I did get a chuckle when she said “the best advice I can give to a schmoe is to lift some fucking weights.”

Though to be fair to her, the Muscleweek interviewer did ask a pretty loaded question (“let’s talk about the schmoes who are social rejects and have never slept with a woman!”) Yeah, there are plenty out there who have the social skills and tact of a brick wall, but it is kind of shitty to word your question like that. The interviewer was definitely egging her on.

...I have to agree more with the Great Gatsby here.

Yes, outside of the over-sharers who seem to bounce in and out of relationships, coaching arrangements, sponsorship agreements, etc. and who then flaunt their instability for the world, social media - like "real" media - is mostly contrived. It's there to sell a particular image, often for the purposes of selling some other products or services.

So, in a world where crafted brands are the order of the day, authenticity comes as a breath of fresh air, a currency that has brand value of its own. I don't want to speak for the female muscle fanbase and I certainly don't want to speak for Heather, but she gave honest responses which both titillated and informed the hosts and their audience. And then many guys from our community also tuned in for a listen, whether at the time of the interview or more recently when they discovered this thread. So, the YouTube channel gets a few more clicks, Heather gets more attention, and GWM gets more traction with an interesting thread on the forum.

Anyone who has ever spent any amount of time with Heather knows that she loves her people. It's rare for someone to be in the business of catering to muscle aficionados for 20+ years without loving the fans.

Yes, a general rule of thumb with any business is to avoid politics or anything else which might offend a large swath of your customer base, but another big rule is to stay relevant. Not being talked about at all because you've lost relevance is the real killer.

fp909
Apr 25, 2022 - permalink

What event was that?

I can't recall what it was called or who hosted it, but I do remember a few stills and some video (I'm pretty sure a paysite organized this) of a hotel ballroom and the women in bikinis posing in a line and a number of guys in chairs nearby. didn't look like there was a lot of people there from those images. i think there are actually a few on here. I can't remember who was in the line up tho.

Apr 26, 2022 - permalink

i'm sure there are plenty of guys on this site that are great with women and aren't social rejects so definitely a loaded question.

its more likely they're only experience is through screencapped messages that women get and the footage of the very uh, weird, msucle event that happened in Europe a few years ago which looked awkward AF

Was it like the New York Muscle Club?

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