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Do not reveal identities of models from herbicepscam (HBC)

Oct 14, 2021 - edited Oct 14, 2021 - permalink

I will chime in here also--I have no vested interest in HBC.

I have heard from multiple women over the years who were previously "anonymous" aka a little difficult to find from their HBC profile alone who have received multiple multiple off-HBC messages from fans ranging from innocent to harassment, including DMing them photos on HBC of their children (if they had any) scraped from social media, or even sending unsolicited gifts IRL.

Obviously we can't make blanket accusations on who is behaving this way, but that behavior is frankly unacceptable, and in the interest of keeping their lives intact as they are this rule is in place. in the interest as a selfish fan, I don't want the women I like to stop in on from time to time disappearing for good because some horny fan decided it was in their best interest to reach out and make it weird, or worse.

Yes, HBC has been stringent in their treatment of customers who don't follow TOS--I am one of them, and I readily acknowledge I broke the rules and they closed me out for it, but they didn't plaster my information anywhere.

Even if they are for whatever reason keeping brand cohesion by using their social handle as their HB name, or advertising their HB account publicly, I would still find it inappropriate. Many of you know I write privately under this handle and have for years--and I would hate to have it exposed publicly for any reason, lest it jeopardize my career and/or relationships.

Quick edit: just because we know who they are and it's obvious to fans who they are on HBC doesn't mean that it should be obvious to everyone. If they wanted their family and friends to know they were on cam several hours a week I don't think they would pick a stage name at all.

Please recall Brooke "Holladay" picking a stage name, and then some people eventually finding her real last name on the internet. Pretty sure she got harassed and she hasn't done a shoot since.

Dec 26, 2021 - permalink

I cant ask about hbc models names even if they are offrire more from more than a year?

Dec 26, 2021 - permalink

Feel free to ask one of the moderators at any time with a PM (private message).

Mar 10, 2022 - permalink

I can understand why they would keep their names private but also this is the internet you can only go under a fake name for so long especially if you have other social media people will eventually find out your name is a part of the business and yeah it sucks when a model quits because of harassment because one fellow decided to take it 2 far but that's just the way it is you can't expect total privacy when you're showing your body on cam I just think there is nothing you can really do

Mar 10, 2022 - edited Mar 10, 2022 - permalink

Rules are rules. If that's the way it is so be it. I always respected it so no issues from me. But I am kind of shocked at the naivety of some of these woman. Especially in this social media age which has been going strong for way over a decade now. Stage names do not last. How the hell you gonna create a stage name and then at the same time have an IG and Facebook page with your real name? For anyone to think they will remain anonymous in 2022 is just plain mind-blowing. It's best not to ever put yourself out there like that in the first place if your concerned about your identity being found out. That's just the way it is.

Mar 10, 2022 - permalink

protecting the models' privacy is only half the story here (admittedly the most important half)…the other half is hbc protecting their business model and avoiding being the middle man that gets cut out of the deal if customers find out about a model's OF, IG, email, etc.

Mar 10, 2022 - permalink

I can understand why they would keep their names private but also this is the internet you can only go under a fake name for so long especially if you have other social media people will eventually find out your name is a part of the business and yeah it sucks when a model quits because of harassment because one fellow decided to take it 2 far but that's just the way it is you can't expect total privacy when you're showing your body on cam I just think there is nothing you can really do

Mar 10, 2022 - permalink

I’ve said this before but these are the rules here. If you want to go expose someone’s identity that they’ve taken at least some measure to protect elsewhere go right ahead. Hopefully your conscience might say otherwise.

Mar 10, 2022 - permalink

I think it’s an exceptionally shitty piece of reasoning to justify revealing a model’s real name by saying “welp, it’s the Internet, and you can’t stay anonymous for long!” Even if a model hasn’t taken the best of precautions (like establishing a link between a camming profile and a personal social media page,) it’s not up to you to megaphone it to the world in an aura of entitlement.

Also, as fans of muscular women who do watch fetish material, it’s important to respect that anonymity. Think of it this way: for everyone who is saying “if you are that concerned about getting your name revealed, don’t cam,” let’s just say that does happen and every muscular woman who does fetish work decides to quit. Then, we’ll have a lot less fetish material to get off on. Kind of a losing scenario for us, don’t you think?

A little respect goes a long way, and it would also contribute to less of a negative stereotype that muscular women have for schmoes.

Mar 10, 2022 - permalink

Some people just like being assholes

Mar 11, 2022 - permalink

People that do this shit are poisoning the well. Its not good for anyone

Jun 18, 2022 - permalink

Lots of leverage and control from a website essentially used for the purpose of "getting off".

Jun 18, 2022 - permalink

Lots of leverage and control from a website essentially used for the purpose of "getting off".

It'd be a better use of your time than writing nonsense.

Jun 18, 2022 - permalink

lol who cares

Aug 27, 2022 - permalink
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Aug 27, 2022 - permalink

I think it’s an exceptionally shitty piece of reasoning to justify revealing a model’s real name by saying “welp, it’s the Internet, and you can’t stay anonymous for long!” Even if a model hasn’t taken the best of precautions (like establishing a link between a camming profile and a personal social media page,) it’s not up to you to megaphone it to the world in an aura of entitlement.

I guess here we are exactly in a point in history where our technology went over our heads.

OUR ANONYMITY IN THE INTERNET IS NOT EXISTENT! NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF FUCKING MEGAPHONE OR VPN IS BEING USED OR NOT!

I really don't mention every single aspect to clarify my point, but damn, as soon as we show our face to the webs or act in any way, we leave traces and people/companies will find out about it.

Oh and another thing: I find it quite funny when HBC is against revealing real names while you can see their models right on top of GWM's page.

Also, as fans of muscular women who do watch fetish material, it’s important to respect that anonymity. Think of it this way: for everyone who is saying “if you are that concerned about getting your name revealed, don’t cam,” let’s just say that does happen and every muscular woman who does fetish work decides to quit. Then, we’ll have a lot less fetish material to get off on. Kind of a losing scenario for us, don’t you think?

Hey, maybe, JUST MAYBE, this whole fetish shit with women showing their (nude) bodies for money so people can jack off while potentially develop a porn addiction wouldn't be too bad for our society! Perhaps we would invest our time with more fulfilling activities instead. Like meeting more people in real life (remember that? Spending more time with kids and friends face to face??)/pursue an art form/etc. and those women would work in a REAL job.

Aug 28, 2022 - permalink
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Aug 28, 2022 - permalink

I guess here we are exactly in a point in history where our technology went over our heads.

OUR ANONYMITY IN THE INTERNET IS NOT EXISTENT! NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF FUCKING MEGAPHONE OR VPN IS BEING USED OR NOT!

I really don't mention every single aspect to clarify my point, but damn, as soon as we show our face to the webs or act in any way, we leave traces and people/companies will find out about it.

Oh and another thing: I find it quite funny when HBC is against revealing real names while you can see their models right on top of GWM's page.

Hey, maybe, JUST MAYBE, this whole fetish shit with women showing their (nude) bodies for money so people can jack off while potentially develop a porn addiction wouldn't be too bad for our society! Perhaps we would invest our time with more fulfilling activities instead. Like meeting more people in real life (remember that? Spending more time with kids and friends face to face??)/pursue an art form/etc. and those women would work in a REAL job.

It's all about how accessible is. There's one thing to recognize a face and connect pieces in your head and another to Google your name and get everything you do online linked to it.

I guess there's a reason your username is femcepsfan and not yourrealfirstname_yourreallastname69.

Also, how ethical what the industry does is does not justify leaking information in a way that hurts the camgirl. It's like saying it's ok to shoplift cigarettes or smash bottles of alcohol in a store because they are bad.

Aug 28, 2022 - edited Aug 28, 2022 - permalink

It's all about how accessible is. There's one thing to recognize a face and connect pieces in your head and another to Google your name and get everything you do online linked to it.

I guess there's a reason your username is femcepsfan and not yourrealfirstname_yourreallastname69.

Also, how ethical what the industry does is does not justify leaking information in a way that hurts the camgirl. It's like saying it's ok to shoplift cigarettes or smash bottles of alcohol in a store because they are bad.

Yeah that's the thing: Those women show their faces and bodies on several platforms. I do not.

I am not sure if your analogy makes total sense regarding the expectations the cam models have. I'm talking about their assumption in terms of protecting their anonymity while spreading a lot of information about themselves in the first place, not about destroying detrimental elements of your society because they are bad. Furthermore your comparison includes illegal behavior, while mentioning a cam model's real name is not.

Sep 15, 2022 - permalink

For anyone questioning why I was furious at what I thought was a communist like rule, and especially @elusive1, or for @1323rebutu, who writes "They're basically doing porn and they probably don't want their profiles to show up on a search engine if their employers or family members decide to look them up".

Really? did the girls on HBC hire you as their Union rep?

Here we go: I questioned, metamorphically, how another man can tell you how to run your house.

I had noticed that for a while, HBC has major influence over GWM.

Your wrote that things have been like this for years, well I have only been here for a few months.

Nevertheless, I couldn't understand how HBC would demand GWM to comply with "the privacy" of the females on their site, when there is nothing private about that site in the first place.

What is private about HBC, when there are videos for viewership for purchase, and it is an adult business to make profit.

We are not talking staff in an academic institution here. Line such as respecting the females privacy is utterly shocking and upsetting to men like us, who cherish the girls, and some men jerk off to their videos.

It is not as if we were requesting for their private home addresses etc.

In addition, I once requested on a forum in GWM to have a video of a FBB, which unbeknown to me, was a video from HBC.

The admin from GWM, was quick to warn me not to make such request, as it paid content belonging to HBC.

I totally understood this rationale and went about my day.

However, with this latest restriction about mentioning the females names/identity that appear on HBC, I was astonished, and thought it was ridicule.

Women going online and showing off their muscles, being on Onlyfans or doing porn, you can forget the idea of your identity being kept a secret.

If I create my website tomorrow about female bodybuilders, and HBC made such request, I would tell them to stick it where the sun don't shine.

For there are plenty of webpages that would prove the same answers about the girls information upon research.

That was my initial point in calling this request a bullshit request. I question decisions and rules, and that was a questionable rule.

I do not regret my decision to voice my opinion and question such rule.

To conclude, it would appear that HBC has power over GWM, perhaps by way of sponsorship.

If I was informed that HBC sponsors GWM, I would not comment and totally understand.

This makes more sense to me now that this is most likely the case, hence I understand GWM decision about HBC's demands.

With that being said, I will comply with the request.

Well, you know, no one is making you stay here. You're free to leave if you don't like the rules here.

Sep 15, 2022 - permalink

It's funny (sad actually) to me how some people take things. They jump straight to mad. Essentially one party asked another party to do a thing. They asked. I'm not in the know but the post didn't mention any legal action or threats. Party 1 asked Party 2 to do a thing. This is not tyranny. Or communism. This is called being nice. Having manners. Having a goddamn soul. If the women on that site would rather you didn't post their real names then as gentlemen I say so be it. When I read things like they are basically doing porn and they are stupid if they don't think someone can figure it out so I should be able to do what I want that sounds a lot like she was asking for it. Don't dress like that or go to that section of town or you deserve what happens to you.

I've posted in the past about the women from Crushwrestling. They go by stage names. To me this wasn't an onlyfans or something like that. I wanted to know some of their real names. Just so I could follow them on Instagram or find a flexing video from them. To be a fan. But it was explained to me that things like that can be harmful to them. Or what really got to me. The women don't want it. Ok. I don't always agree with it but it's not a hard ask. It's their life. You can't act like their coming to take us away to the concentration camps all the time about every little thing.

Sep 16, 2022 - permalink

Thing is it's short lived. Even the best of the best models stay 2-3 years and disappear. It's called life. Some remain as anonymous and lowkey as it gets but eventually someone always exposes them.

Sep 16, 2022 - edited Sep 17, 2022 - permalink

Wow, wild thread.

1) The claim that HBC does not care about or protect customer privacy is patently false. Our company consistently reviews and updates our security protocols for exactly that reason. A person who commits a crime - e.g. recording a private session and then publishing it for sale on a file-sharing site - is a criminal, not a customer. But even then, said individual is still entitled to due process. In 15+ years of running this site, no customer information has been “revealed” and thankfully - knock on wood - there has never been a data breach. We know there is a lot of luck involved, but we also exercise industry best practices in order to mitigate that risk.

2) We are proud to be an advertising partner of GWM. This is one of the most visible and highly respected websites in the female muscle sphere, and we were very happy to be able to secure a promotional agreement with Chainer. Yes, we did request that HBC host privacy be respected to some degree and we have asked that some private videos be removed. That’s it. This is Chainer’s site and he and his team determine the rules and the enforcement thereof. If we had as much influence as certain posters are claiming, the “transformation” tag would have been added years ago. 😉

3) We respect the right of every model on our platform to earn as much as she can by whatever means she wishes. What we have elected not to allow is unpaid advertising on our platform. I don’t know of any retail store that’s going to allow a competing business to come inside their doors and set up a stand for free. We put a lot of work into providing a valuable platform for our hosts and visitors.

4) “Reveal her name, eff that ****!” guy is invariably the first to complain when a model quits HBC (or GWM) forever. But no one will ever convince him he was to blame, because he’s married to his entitlement complex. Just like recorder-resell guy, he’s not a customer either, so yes, his angry opinions float in the ether so that we can spend our efforts catering to the guys and models who want to support and enjoy this whole thing, whatever it may be.

Thank you for all the valid opinions shared here and to Chainer & Co. for all the work you guys do to keep this incredible site drama-free and fun at no cost to any visitor. 🙏🏼

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