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May 18, 2021 - permalink

Thanks guys for all the nice comments. I feel way better about myself now :)

Sharing with like minded people always help 😁

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May 18, 2021 - permalink

This may be an unpopular comment, but alas, it's how I feel. At 27, almost 28 years old, I'm way less insecure and embarrassed/ashamed about this aspect of my sexuality than I was as a kid. I had to hide it completely from everyone and was always afraid of getting caught on the computer as a child by either my brothers or my parents. Now, in the past few years, I've told friends and even one of my siblings. I'm much more open about it. However, what I am ashamed and embarrassed about is that I masturbate to pornography. That I use these images as a way to masturbate. I'm not here to tell anyone else what's right or wrong, but I know for myself that I feel kind of gross in how I relate to this site and other muscle sites/videos on the internet. It's basically an addiction, and I use it to avoid certain feelings. If I'm feeling bad, if I'm angry or sad or lonely, I look up images and masturbate and it just isn't right (for me). I feel even worse that I can't seem to stop.

For me, this is nothing to do with my love for muscular, athletic, strong women. In the real world, I think it's fine, it's beautiful, it's what I like. But my hidden use of pornography of these women makes me feel guilty.

Anyway, that's just me.

One other piece of advice I would give you is that shame/guilt/embarrassment is not something you can consciously erase. I'm glad that other people telling you you shouldn't feel those things seems to have helped for you, but in my opinion, it's important to follow the trail of your feelings. Why are you feeling those things? There is always a reason, and it may not always be obvious. Ultimately, I do agree with the others who have said these things, that your sexuality is your sexuality, and as long as you're not harming others or yourself, it's perfectly ok.

May 18, 2021 - permalink

Thanks guys for all the nice comments. I feel way better about myself now :)

There's tons of us who like exactly what you do. Don't feel weird or ashamed of it.

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May 18, 2021 - permalink

Liking a woman who REALLY takes care of herself, has supreme discipline and is incredibly fit. What’s NOT to love about THAT?! The haters would swap bodies in a split second if it were that easy. They’re too lazy and jealous. For me, a hot powerful woman in gym gear with muscles is as sexy as it gets. 🔥

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May 18, 2021 - permalink

The nature arguments here are quite funny. I am pretty sure if nature needed humans to be able to deadlift 300kg we all be build like gorillas. Most of the woman on this site are not what nature intended. At all.

But why bother: The argument that something is right because it is natural is super outdated. You have a sexual preference than in itself hurts no one and so that's just perfectly fine and normal. The natural argument should be: its normal for people to be attracted to different things. What you might feel is, that you feel ashamed because you are attracted to things other people don't. find attractive. But this has just more to do with our urge as social animals to fit in. But diversity is normal, necessary and good. Its just a pity that there are people out there who want everyone to conform to their world view — but this toxic behaviour doesn't make them right.

TLDR: Its fine. You are not sick. You are not wrong. You are not broken. You are not hurting anyone with you preferences. You are okay like that. Don't let other people make you feel bad about it. But its also ok, that its sometimes hard to feel "different".

Also: Lets not fool ourselves. The narrative that all these woman are healthy and take great care of themselves is bullshit. There is a lot of drug abuse going on. A ton of these woman have serious self-image issues, severe body dysmorphia and there is definitely a dark side to all of this. Lets just stay realistic and not idealise everything.

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May 18, 2021 - permalink

The nature arguments here are quite funny. I am pretty sure if nature needed humans to be able to deadlift 300kg we all be build like gorillas. Most of the woman on this site are not what nature intended. At all.

Nature does not need or intend anything. Evolution has no agency. Survival of the fittest does not mean the most ripped and muscular animal. It means most suited to its environment. And since nature does not have a plan there are numerous features that are passed down that are highly detrimental or have no purpose like the small brain of the koala.

So arguing that something is natural does not mean it is a good thing. Having high muscle mass is a drawback in most situations, there are very few cases before civilization where higher muscle mass meant the ability to survive.

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May 18, 2021 - permalink

To me there is nothing more sexy and arousing than a female bodybuilder. It’s there all my life. I felt really ashamed because of societal gender norms. Recently i have been in surgery and they removed a brain tumor the size of a small orange. That experience has been life changing for me. Alle insecurities fell of my chest and it gave me a new perspective on life. I am going to live it fully now and do exactly as i please. I came out for my liking and have bought VIP tickets for this years Ms. Olympia. I’ll be there for a week and i am going to pursue this dream of being a photographer / videomaker and capture the beauty of female muscle. I know what is sexy and i am a filmmaker of corporate videos, music videos and commercials. So the skills are there. It would be awesome if i connect with one of those beauties, get married and build the life i have been dreaming of all my life. I’ll cherish every day and will be there for her in every way i can. It is going to happen! I’m sure it will,

May 18, 2021 - permalink

I struggled with this too, especially in my teens and 20s, before fitness culture was where it is now. Felt lots of shame, confusion, and downright anxiety that I'll be "found out". Comments from friends like "ew her legs are disgusting", "why would a woman ever do that to herself", "you MUST be gay if you're into THAT" certainly didn't help.

Over time though, I learned to accept it and reached some of the same conclusions others here have made: people are attracted to various body types, there's way weirder/illegal fetishes, and in the end it's not really your choice what gets your juices flowing.

Nowadays, I'll say that I'm into fit or athletic girls. I don't need to go into specifics. And if someone asks for specifics, I'll show them a pic of someone like Anna Nyman. I don't have to say that I'm also into Aleesha Young and frankly, I doubt I'll ever have a chance to be with a woman like that so no point in stressing. But there's a lot more regular fit, buff girls out there and I have no qualms pointing them out and saying "she's hot".

May 18, 2021 - permalink

To me there is nothing more sexy and arousing than a female bodybuilder. It’s there all my life. I felt really ashamed because of societal gender norms. Recently i have been in surgery and they removed a brain tumor the size of a small orange. That experience has been life changing for me. Alle insecurities fell of my chest and it gave me a new perspective on life. I am going to live it fully now and do exactly as i please. I came out for my liking and have bought VIP tickets for this years Ms. Olympia. I’ll be there for a week and i am going to pursue this dream of being a photographer / videomaker and capture the beauty of female muscle. I know what is sexy and i am a filmmaker of corporate videos, music videos and commercials. So the skills are there. It would be awesome if i connect with one of those beauties, get married and build the life i have been dreaming of all my life. I’ll cherish every day and will be there for her in every way i can. It is going to happen! I’m sure it will,

Wow. Congrats on making it out of that surgery ok, and all the best pursuing your dream!

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I'll double down on nubreed's kind sentiment. Life altering experiences like have a brain tumor removed, puts everything in perspective. Hopefully surviving that will give you the courage to pursue your muscular woman dreams. 👍💪 A little side note, only a person who sees the incredible sensuality of a muscular woman, can properly capture that in photos and on film. You obviously have that going for you as well as your technical prowess.

May 18, 2021 - permalink

I know that feeling. I like muscular women since the first time I saw them on TV while I was doing zapping, when I was a child, however the cultural prejudices about them, forced me to keep secret this taste, my hobby is drawing, so, one day I couldn't resist more, and I started to draw muscular fanart of some cartoon characters, unlike irl, here on the internet I could share my taste with people that also appreciate the beauty of the muscular femenine body, the few times I tried to talk about it irl with "friends" or family their innmediate reaction is "Ew!" I usually did "normal" drawings but since my muscle fanarts were well appreciated, now I only draw women with muscles, although irl people doesn't like it

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Shame is defined as the fear of being perceived as lowly. I think lowly is defined as willingly immoral. And immoral is a person who has wrong aims or wrong ways of achieving them. So if you are afraid of appearing insufficient in someone's eyes, then maybe you should ask them or ask yourself, insufficient how? Insufficient in what respect?

Either you spend time with people who are interested in what you are doing, you spend time with people who are not interested in what you are doing or you don't spend time with people at all. Or some combination of these three.

I think the point is not in the hype that women are becoming the stronger sex. In reality only a few of them are and in times like this you know most of them by name. Or by Instagram alias. This site is not some vanguard of some new normality.

I am not sure how one could define guilt. But I think it is a sense of having violated something and needing to repay. I think that what is being violated is one's self-image. You feel guilty for desiring to be the weaker party in comparison to these women. That is, you give away part of your self-esteem for a fantasy of being accepted or desired by an imagined version of the woman in the picture. Once the fantasy evaporates, you are left with the reduced self-esteem.

To remedy this one could imagine how these women would desire you as you are, instead of in return for accepting a role as their slave or baby or punching bag. This would mean that you would need to have things to say to them. It would then relegate the entire power and muscle issue to a secondary status. This fetish is just a subset of sexuality. And people engage in recreational sex in order to have the fantasy of being desired and of their desire being desirable or acceptable to the other. I think this motivational structure applies to same sex, different sex, violence, sadomasochism, kids, grannies, piss, shit, animals, cadavers and inanimate objects equally. You go where ever you are wanted and your desires are welcome, in reality or in imagination. Nothing moves without being moved. It's only that some people wish to keep on moving without knowing why. I wish them all the best but I don't expect them to be successful.

May 18, 2021 - permalink

A reminder...this world of loving muscular females wasn't always out there for all of us to see. Older guys like myself, grew up mostly feeling alone in our appreciation. Discovering WASP...which evolved into WPW helped but the advent of the internet, brought me Diana the Valkyrie. That place really made me realize, I wasn't alone. Now I knew there were others.

May 18, 2021 - permalink

I know that feeling. I like muscular women since the first time I saw them on TV while I was doing zapping, when I was a child, however the cultural prejudices about them, forced me to keep secret this taste, my hobby is drawing, so, one day I couldn't resist more, and I started to draw muscular fanart of some cartoon characters, unlike irl, here on the internet I could share my taste with people that also appreciate the beauty of the muscular femenine body, the few times I tried to talk about it irl with "friends" or family their innmediate reaction is "Ew!" I usually did "normal" drawings but since my muscle fanarts were well appreciated, now I only draw women with muscles, although irl people doesn't like it

Hey! Contact amysconquest and do drawings for them! They've got all sorts of fetish muscular stuff, I'm sure the fan base there will highly value your skills!!!

May 18, 2021 - permalink

Hey! Contact amysconquest and do drawings for them! They've got all sorts of fetish muscular stuff, I'm sure the fan base there will highly value your skills!!!

Thank you very much for your suggestion, I will try to contact them, maybe I will be lucky

fp909
May 18, 2021 - permalink

They’re always looking for new contributors I’m sure! I did a few stories for them back in the day (like 4 years ago)

May 18, 2021 - permalink

I know that feeling. I like muscular women since the first time I saw them on TV while I was doing zapping, when I was a child, however the cultural prejudices about them, forced me to keep secret this taste, my hobby is drawing, so, one day I couldn't resist more, and I started to draw muscular fanart of some cartoon characters, unlike irl, here on the internet I could share my taste with people that also appreciate the beauty of the muscular femenine body, the few times I tried to talk about it irl with "friends" or family their innmediate reaction is "Ew!" I usually did "normal" drawings but since my muscle fanarts were well appreciated, now I only draw women with muscles, although irl people doesn't like it

Ah yea.. That too. You're young, you show vulnerability by revealing your attraction, and then get destroyed for it. Happened to me too. So now I just keep it to myself mostly.

May 18, 2021 - permalink

All I can say is: what a time to be alive. I almost feel sorry for our ancestors who also had this kind of mojo but didn't have the material to enjoy.

At the end of the day I can't help but wonder do the girls that get buff also like it the way that we do? Is that one of the reasons they want to get buff? Is it the look? Is it the improvement? Is it the norm defying ideal that drives them? Whatever it is, I'm thankful for them and sites like these and the people that make it possible

May 18, 2021 - permalink

@asqwert...probably a combination of the things you mentioned. What really shocked me was watching a muscular woman get turned on, watching ME GET turned on. I was completely out of control and she was loving it....becoming aggressive, taking control. It was a short fling but while it lasted 😳🤪

May 18, 2021 - permalink

The nature arguments here are quite funny. I am pretty sure if nature needed humans to be able to deadlift 300kg we all be build like gorillas. Most of the woman on this site are not what nature intended. At all.

Also: Lets not fool ourselves. The narrative that all these woman are healthy and take great care of themselves is bullshit. There is a lot of drug abuse going on. A ton of these woman have serious self-image issues, severe body dysmorphia and there is definitely a dark side to all of this. Lets just stay realistic and not idealise everything.

Great comment by Klaus to which I'd like to add.

I too have always felt embarassed by this, and have spent a great deal of time agonizing about it. So here are my 2 cents.

I believe that sexual orientation is very likely learned and cannot possibly be genetically encoded. It is easy to see how the cortex/brain can learn to be attracted to GWM. The sexual segregation from childhood that almost all societies practice mostly meets its intended purpose of making opposite sexes attract, except the small percent of 'rebels', i.e., gays/lesbians/etc. Also, very early on, every child learns that physical strength is good, and since muscles signify strength, muscles, the bigger the better, are good. From here it is a short leap to the idea that GWM are good.

I also think it is very likely that setting up sexual orientation has a critical period, i.e., once it is learned that a certain combination of physical features are good or desirable, they tend to become fixed and it is hard, maybe impossible, to modify later, past a certain age. For instance gays/lesbians overwhelmingly report that no amount of bible-thumping or being sent to gay camp makes the slightest change to their preferences.

I have myself tried hard, several times, to normalize or fix my embarassing attraction towards GWM, and failed every single time. I mean it works for maybe 3-4 days and then my temporary attraction towards normal or real girls just completely dies off.

My own psycological fix is the concept of suspension of disbelief. Like Klaus, I maintain a realistic view of the world most of the time. Yes male bodybuilding is completely fake, and [extreme] female bodybuilding is a complete disaster to the female body, but when it comes to sexual arousal, I suspend disbelief regarding the fact that it is impossible to have a pretty feminine face + big boobs + big muscles.

As most others here say, it is a bit embarassing, but at least it harms nobody, except maybe the few women who take extreme body building too seriously.

May 18, 2021 - permalink

You guys are all gay sinners. You're just trying to beat God on a technicality. /s

May 18, 2021 - permalink

In nature, as Darwin discovered, it's the survival of the fittest. Thus, all wild animals are subjected to nature's selection agenda, and are thus attracted to the fittest, male or female. Why would humans be any different? If a man doesn't like female muscles, that's his choice, but in nature, the fittest reign, period. Case closed.

This is a reasonably good example of the equivocation fallacy. If there were a teleology in evolution it's to reproduce, and extreme muscularity in women is an impediment to reproduction (many of these young women have stopped menstruating). The modern landscape disrupts traditional pressures on natural selection. The people who breed tend to be more religious and less educated. Does that mean they're more "fit"? Probably. Maybe their genes do not have intergenerational endurance.

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