Trying to understand the pay muscle sites...

Hi,

I love seeing muscular womens legs in high heels and also wearing nylons. I'm familiar with Legs Emporium and that site seems pretty easy to understand and get around on. But some of these muscle sites I just don't get it. This one I sort of get it, if this is a forum site and people just post what they want to so you can't get complete photo sets or videos. But what about diamondcalves.com? You enter that and it seems to flash by in the address bar then takes you to some gumroad thing. I was able to get one video of Zlata Tarasova but at girlswithmuscle.com can see there is other stuff out there one shoot looks like it's at the same location but she's bare legged. Is it possible to get that too? In the pics it looks like it's at that same diamond calves site:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/ed0bc01323342909
 but I can't find the option for that video or whatever it is there. And what is saradas.org? Another forum site? Or is there more to it than that at some of these places? I've registered there a couple of times but never get the confirmation email, and I do check the spam folder. I can't really get anywhere with beautymuscle.net and they seem to have some huge banner that takes up half the window so you can't really see what you're trying to look at. Do you have to register and pay to get rid of that stuff, and then what? Do they have videos and photos you can buy or do you have to break out the credit card before you can even look around? At legs emporium you can buy videos and photo sets individually without paying to register so I can understand that. What other sites are like that? Is her-calves-muscle-legs.com part of girlswithmuscle.com and neither of them actually sell material? But they provide a place for people to promote it? But if so I don't see links to help you find it.

Thanks for any help understanding how this works!

David
USA

GWM is not a paysite.  It's where users post mostly stuff from social media.  Everything posted is free, and whatever is posted from paysites ends up removed.  Saradas is a forum, and in my opinion not worth the effort.  And a lot of the sites you're referencing are very old and poorly maintained.  It is what it is.  Not everything on the internet ages well.

Well I guess I came to the wrong place to ask about where to buy complete videos and photo sets. The only other place I've run into that restriction is where the people who run the forum also have some pay sites for actual material and they don't want you posting about other pay sites, but you can talk about stuff from their sites.

And I thought this particular forum is Paysite Reviews which seems you should be able to post stuff and talk about paysites. I do not get it.

You seem to have the main site confused with the forum.  The forum is where you're at now, and yes you can ask about paysites here.

This is for nopeda. You might want to try clips4sale dot com. It is a site that is geared towards all kinds of fetishes, and is definitely not safe for work.
I'd guess they have what you are looking for. Or try this site:
https://www.premierproductionvideos.com/  That website also has fetish videos along with bodybuilding videos, with more of a "mainstream" vibe.

Here is a an example of a video from Premier, not sure if this is what you want, you will have to search the site to possibly find more:
https://www.premierproductionvideos.com/CRL05VOD--Erika--Topless--featuring-Erika--Video-Download_p_624.html

I f I can think of more websites and remember to come back to this topic, I will try to do so. Please advise if this is what you are looking for.

Yes thank you, though they want a pretty high price imo. I see stuff at GWM and then want to see more and it's frustrating...wondering where did people get the photos and why post them if it's not so you can get more. Also it seems that sometimes I can't even tell who the person in the photo is.

nopeda: I would suggest spending some more time on GwM so you can get a better understanding of how the site works. Many, if not most, of the pictures come from models' Instagram sites. Some come from Facebook and s scattering of other origins. If you want to find more of a model, other than what has been posted to GwM, doing this inquiry in Google or Yahoo often works:

jane doe bodybuilder      Of course, a common name will yield less results than a more unusual name.

Yes, some uploaders are bad, or just plain lazy, about providing names with their uploads. Pictures coming from various Tumblr sites can be hard to identify. You can sometimes find a name by clicking on Uploader on the right side of a picture and scrolling down to Source (of picture).

You are right about that. A lot of FBB sites has not been maintained in years.

Waste of money

There was a time when Denise Masino's Muscle Elegance was the hottest FBB nude site in the world. Ever since Denise and Robert Masino divorced, it's been dead in the water. Everything that made the site what it was has now been superseded by Muscle Angels..

awefilms.com

krivsstudio.com

zoltanveghvideos.com/

fitvids.co.uk

femalemusclevideo.com

muscle-fantasies.com

ebony-muscle.com

I'm sure there are others I'm forgetting - no slight intended - but those are just off the top of my head.

I obviously still love paysites (no self interest there, I promise!), but understand that the market has shifted quite dramatically over the past 20 years to an on-demand, PPV model. I think there is room for the paysites, but Instagram has shredded the margins that once existed.

I obviously still love paysites (no self interest there, I promise!), but understand that the market has shifted quite dramatically over the past 20 years to an on-demand, PPV model. I think there is room for the paysites, but Instagram has shredded the margins that once existed.

Personally I still prefer the paysite model for variety and cost.

Personally I still prefer the paysite model for variety and cost.

No one can compete with the price of IG, though. ;)

No one can compete with the price of IG, though. ;)

Ah, I thought when you said the "PPV model" you were referring to onlyfans, which I have love/hate for.

No one can compete with the price of IG, though. ;)

My only caveat here is the decided rise in self-marketing and “partnerships” on IG that have really turned me off to following some women. For some they flipped a large following to turn it into a business and stopped posting the stuff n liked. For others every other post is “sponsored”. Eventually for me it’s too much. Add in the incredible amounts of bots, spam accounts, and intentional mistags for views and it’s hard to look at it much.

The ease of access is great, and I have reached out to many women for personal stuff with about a 20% success rate, and I’m still getting new stuff at a pretty good clip. Or at the very least j can leave a nice compliment for someone on their hard work. But I think so much has moved to OF that either they don’t want to be looped into that stigma or they want me to pay 20$ a month just to ask the question.

I don't think ig is competition for paysites at all. Incorrectly framed amateur recordings at the awesome resolution of 480x800? Give me a break.

The only ones paysites can blame for their middling audience is themselves. Either because of lack of diverse content, or unacceptable price hikes. When greed kicks in people get off the bus.

Even if the revenue slightly increases in the short term when you bump the monthly price, it will hurt you in the long term.

For example I was a permanent subscriber to zoltanveghvideos for years, until he decided to bump the price from 9 / month to 20 / month. Now I'll subscribe for 1 month every 4-6 months instead of being there constantly. So I used to pay 9x12=108 / year. Since the hike I pay 3x20 / year which is 60. Was it worth it? It's a loose - loose situation.

Another European site: amazingmusclebeauties

Yes, how could I forget Robby!

I'd be way out of turn speaking about anyone else's pricing other than to make a factual observation of what sites are charging. I don't know anyone else's expenses, but if another producer has a cost-saving suggestion, we're definitely going to listen.

Generally, producers know their customers. The longer they've been in business, the more they know. Customers - for the most part - know one customer. Sure, a customer knows every single thing about that customer - what they like/don't like, what their monthly entertainment budget is, whether they prefer memberships vs VOD, etc - but that's still just one customer. The businesses in this industry typically have to cater to anywhere from dozens of customers to hundreds of thousands of customers. We typically want to meet people where they're at, but even on our Free site, there are often those who will rage quit (their Free memberships, mind you) because they aren't getting everything the Premium members get. The emails threatening that they will "contact the government!" are the best.

The reality is that - though some customers may remain the same - markets are dynamic. That's why OnlyFans exists today and is doing huge numbers, whereas in 2005, fans may have joined a muscle model's solo site. Who are the 25- to 30-year-old physique models running their own membership sites with a ccBill interface? Most of the models who still have them are older...and even many of them are earning significantly more from OF than from their primary member sites.

Just a few facts to consider...

exuse me nobody mentioned forum saradas, its so vast and so complicated at the same time,to sign up theres questions ,see if u guys to help ne with the right answer,q...what is the very last letter or symbol in this question. ive stated the obvious but doesnt work colon qustion mark idk, thanks if theres something tricky here

but u can visit i got alot of videos from there , its so vast

once upon a time there was a portal site that used to track all the available sites, but link portals are dead now lol.

https://deekay.delimit.net/

Is that the one you're talking about?

oh shit yeah thats the one! i was a religious visitor there. they even have the same GIF still of the bulging bicep damn.

The best female muscle pay sites, are run by, videoed by, photographed by, people who see a muscular woman, the same way as us. They see the unbridled sensuality of the physically developed female. Her grace, her power, her stunning physical presence. They understand angles, how to present and sometimes enhance, a muscular woman's best features. Robby Brand, Zoltan Vegh, Lou Krivda are three of the very best, not meaning to slight other awesome physique woman photographers.