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Apr 04, 2021 - permalink

I don't know WTF you're talking about muscleflexin and those seem like unfounded accusations.

Not unfounded at all!! I know first hand.... And I don't and wouldn't make false accusations like this about anyone. You may not like what I said whatever your reasons, but it is the absolute truth.

Apr 04, 2021 - permalink

Thanks, but the purchase was made a while ago, I don't expect a refund, but I expect you to do better. The VOD videos are too short to include anything else but flexing. If you are going to put in random stuff like goofing around doing fitness moves and talking, or feats of strength, you need to make the videos much longer so everyone feels like they got what they wanted. A 10 minute video where only 3 minutes is flexing, is not worth a purchase for me. A 45 minute video where at least 15 minutes are flexing would be an entirely different case.

As for the forums, you are trying to present its preservation as some kind of impossibility, that's just not true. You could have left it as it was, and put a link to it, end of story, zero effort would've been needed. But you choose instead to delete 15+ years of discussions, and memories of a lot of people. I see that as utter contempt for your long time followers.

I expressed this before, but I find camsites borderline whoring, so your decision to merge the two spoils the whole thing for me. I feel like a creep just browsing your site. Sorry, to say it, but there needs to be some major changes before you will have me back as a customer. Changes I don't think you are willing to make. Because it would mean going back to where hb and hbcam were completely separate entities. And you need to make up your mind whether herbiceps is a membership site or a vod site. Trying to be both never works.

Again, I'm sorry you didn't enjoy your purchase, but if something like that happens again, let us know and hopefully we can replace it with a product that is more to your liking. But a 45-minute video? Whew! Unfortunately, those days are long over.

The old forum was not built on our server. People can disagree with our reasons and rationale, but there are a number of reasons that we needed to house everything in one place.

I disagree with your position that a member site cannot or should not sell VODs and vice-versa. You may not be old enough to remember, but the lifeblood of all the "original" - i.e. pre-internet, then transitional print-to-web - female muscle companies was video sales. Member sites enjoyed tremendous success during the 00s, but the last decade has really been dominated by the VOD market. We appreciate all our members, but I don't think there's much demand for a $50-60 monthly membership that would replace all VOD. Check out some of the casual and not-so-casual criticism of the site(s) sometime. Customers want exactly what they want and most don't care what the other customer wants. Many of them are forgotten now, but a lot of members-only sites are no longer with us. Meanwhile, many of the same membership + VOD sites that were doing business in 2010 are still around in 2021.

Apr 04, 2021 - permalink

My biggest gripe with HerBiceps has always been the video length. I joined again recently, saw they are somehow still posting tons of one minute clips, and promptly quit.

Short clips suck. Thanks.

Thank you for this feedback.

Apr 04, 2021 - permalink

It seems kinda lame to charge a membership, but also have 1/3rd of it behind another paywall. I mean, I get it and it's all pretty quality, but I just can't see spending even more personally

Thank you for this feedback. There is free content, Premium member clips, and VOD. There is a tremendous volume to choose from and visitors can transact at whatever level they want, from spending $0 for the photos and free clips, to joining every other month for $15 to get the Premium member video, to paying $100 for the annual membership and then spending another $100/month on VODs.

Apr 04, 2021 - permalink

@herbiceps, I have enjoyed your content for years, but it does suck that so many videos in the archives are currently unavailable. Also, I don't mind the VOD section, in fact I wish there were more long form shoots, even of older shoots, and that VODs were added more often.

Thank you for the feedback and for being a supporter for so long. Some nice portion of the older material will be featured again someday in one form or another, so check back often to see whether there are any classic content updates.

What's interesting is that we often get complaints about too many VODs being published. It just goes to show that there's no perfect formula for this industry that will appeal to everyone. We may be able to come up with some long-form posing videos. I will keep that note in mind.

Apr 04, 2021 - permalink

Not unfounded at all!! I know first hand.... And I don't and wouldn't make false accusations like this about anyone. You may not like what I said whatever your reasons, but it is the absolute truth.

Pics or it didn't happen.

Our admins do not interrupt live sessions unless there is a scheduled site outage for maintenance, in which case a system message goes out to all models who are online at that moment. What you previously alleged is something that never happened.

Apr 05, 2021 - permalink

We do have a direct commenting feature on the site, so you can always share your thoughts on any video you watch. The button is below and to the right of the video player.

That's good to know, didn't noticed that, even if it doesn't look like a feedback link but it might be pretty useful, thank you

That's an interesting suggestion about the download queue. I think it's possible to do that within your individual browser, but maybe you have to use multiple tabs, I'm not sure. I have slow internet and I believe I was able queue up 4 downloads at a time. I'll look into that again, but maybe it's something we could build in and would behave similarly to the shopping cart feature?

This could be a nice feature, thank you for considering the idea. Maybe just an additional list of the content you can download on the model page could be helpful.

As for the "format not supported" error, I rarely see this with our vids, but do get these reports from time-to-time concerning model-generated content that was shot on her mobile phone. We're always having to tweak the cloud to keep things running, and we appreciate the people who let us know about issues like these. Shoot us an email at help@herbicepscam.com and we will check the video(s) you are not able to view and of course, we'll refund anything that's not working.

Thank you, not talking about VOD indeed but videos in the video section. It often happen to me, using the iPad.

Regarding old content, there is no way to curate and reactivate it all at once. And even if everything could be republished as is - or rather, "as was" - there is still so much we would have no interest in posting ever again. There is no good analogy for what I'm describing. Some years ago, we thought it would be easy to leave everything in place and then give new and future members a skeleton key to our old, dusty vault, but as we got further into the project, we discovered that was a bit of a pipe dream. And then when we took a more critical look, we realized it was a bad idea anyway. So, we scrapped it and moved on.

Got it.

When you're talking about going back that far, Sean is the only editor who was with the company back then and we'd lose some measurable level of efficiency if we asked him to work on the archive during a significant amount of his editing hours. So, those projects are generally assigned to others, which means a little more direct involvement from us. We have a great library and a lot of incredible models and dedicated shooters made it possible, but from a business perspective, fresh content is king, so we have to be judicious when addressing areas of sentimentality.

Got it again :)

Thank you for addressing the while things!

Apr 05, 2021 - permalink

Is Herbicepscam a porn site?

Apr 05, 2021 - permalink

I do want to say Thank You to the HB+ crew for handling the criticism with grace and understanding. Maybe gratitude shouldn't be necessary because good customer service should be automatic for any thriving business. But far too often I've encountered people who provide a similar service and yet treat their customer base as though they should shut-up just be grateful regardless of quality of content. They act as though they are giving the stuff up for free which definitely ain't the case. So much respect goes to HB+.

Apr 06, 2021 - permalink

Is Herbicepscam a porn site?

I guess it's really up to the models and the customers, how far both wanna go.

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Apr 06, 2021 - edited Apr 06, 2021 - permalink

Again, I'm sorry you didn't enjoy your purchase, but if something like that happens again, let us know and hopefully we can replace it with a product that is more to your liking. But a 45-minute video? Whew! Unfortunately, those days are long over.

The old forum was not built on our server. People can disagree with our reasons and rationale, but there are a number of reasons that we needed to house everything in one place.

I disagree with your position that a member site cannot or should not sell VODs and vice-versa. You may not be old enough to remember, but the lifeblood of all the "original" - i.e. pre-internet, then transitional print-to-web - female muscle companies was video sales. Member sites enjoyed tremendous success during the 00s, but the last decade has really been dominated by the VOD market. We appreciate all our members, but I don't think there's much demand for a $50-60 monthly membership that would replace all VOD. Check out some of the casual and not-so-casual criticism of the site(s) sometime. Customers want exactly what they want and most don't care what the other customer wants. Many of them are forgotten now, but a lot of members-only sites are no longer with us. Meanwhile, many of the same membership + VOD sites that were doing business in 2010 are still around in 2021.

I'm sorry to hear that a 45 minute video sounds absurd to you. Maybe that is part of the reason why some people don't want to go to your site anymore? The 1 minute or 90 second clips were a compromise from the time of slow internet. There is no longer a need to cut videos to shreds. That was one of my biggest criticism of your site even before the new layout that you cut up a single photoshoot into dozens of tiny videos, and trickle upload them over a course of 6 months or more.

My current favorite site is Zoltan Vegh's site, his photoshooting videos regularly pass the 30 minute mark, and on occasion even 60 minutes. And it's not a vod site, it's a membership site. Maybe you can get a few cues.

Having everything in one place does not warrant deleting the forum without proper forewarning.

I didn't say don't sell VODs, I said decide which one do you want to do, be a member site, or sell individual videos. Being a member on a site that also sells vods means you as a member will never get full videos, only scraps.

But you do you, I'll just continue to take my money elsewhere. zoltanvegh for membership site, and fitvids for vods.

Apr 06, 2021 - permalink

Zoltan Vegh is a master at capturing the sensuality of muscular women!!!! None better.

Apr 07, 2021 - permalink

Been a long time subscriber to her biceps it has come a long way. I know that every business has to innovate or they die. The issue for me was when you were a member of the site, you got videos of all of the women who contributed. While I understand VOD, it seems the elite women only do VOD. So members are paying a premium price for what exactly? I love Andrea Shaw, all of her vids are VOD, I want to continue supporting the site, supporting the women that are on the site. I don’t mean to compare, but Muscle Angels also has a VOD however, the VOD clips are cut down for the main site but if you choose to buy the uncut vid you can. For the long time supporters of your site it just seems like we are paying more and not getting what use to be our moneys worth. How long have I been a member well I still remember when you guys use to use mpeg format. I have no issue with the price remaining where it is, I just think that maybe just maybe most of the new content doesn’t have to be VOD. Or do what awefilms does. All of their vids are available VOD but if you’re a member they are included.

Apr 07, 2021 - permalink

Thanks for the feedback everyone, we are always listening.

Apr 07, 2021 - permalink

I do want to say Thank You to the HB+ crew for handling the criticism with grace and understanding. Maybe gratitude shouldn't be necessary because good customer service should be automatic for any thriving business. But far too often I've encountered people who provide a similar service and yet treat their customer base as though they should shut-up just be grateful regardless of quality of content. They act as though they are giving the stuff up for free which definitely ain't the case. So much respect goes to HB+.

Thank you for your kind words. #humbled

Is Herbicepscam a porn site?

Define "porn".

Zoltan Vegh is a master at capturing the sensuality of muscular women!!!! None better.

He is an absolute master, you are 100% correct on that. I remember him from Diana the Valkyrie's message boards (or library?) also. What some of the classic great photographers did with the still image, he has now achieved with video. Other people have experimented with 3D or VR, but Zoltan is the early and established leader in that space, from my vantage point.

Apr 07, 2021 - permalink

He is an absolute master, you are 100% correct on that. I remember him from Diana the Valkyrie's message boards (or library?) also. What some of the classic great photographers did with the still image, he has now achieved with video. Other people have experimented with 3D or VR, but Zoltan is the early and established leader in that space, from my vantage point.

Totally agree, in the VR especially he's doing epic stuff!

Apr 12, 2021 - permalink

I love these herbiceps VR vids,we need more of that.

Apr 12, 2021 - permalink

I love these herbiceps VR vids,we need more of that.

Agreed! Seeing Andrea Shaw in VR was insane!!! I couldnt help but notice that the VR videos have been taken down from the VOD section. Is there a reason why, perhaps they will get their own section...god i hope so. And please tell me you guys were able to shoot either Aleesha or Monique Jones in VR.

Apr 13, 2021 - permalink

Not yet.

Apr 13, 2021 - permalink

Not yet.

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