HerBiceps is back and better than...

hbplus

Sep 18, 2019 - permalink

...EVERYTHING! ;) The other thread title was a bit sad, so I hope the Management will indulge us a bit here.

We're shooting more content than ever before in our ongoing efforts to deliver the greatest product and value of any female muscle fan site in the world. The production team just wrapped up 2 straight weeks of shooting - with the Rising Phoenix and Olympia being back-to-back - and the editors already have that material in hand. And look at the volume Premium subscribers are getting now - 8 model updates (so far) today, 9 yesterday, and 15 the day before that. It's safe to say we are tackling head on the most common complaint - lack of updates - of the past 2-3 years. Over 2 months since launch, we haven't missed a day yet and a high percentage of the more than 2000 video clips and 17000 photos is free. Visitors can sign up for a free membership and will have access to almost all the photos and tons of videos. Original content for free on a member site?! Who ever heard of such? A viewer no longer has to commit to the whole apple when all he wants is a bite.

At any rate, it's 4am and I've rambled on long enough, but we want everyone to know how much we truly appreciate the support you've given us over the past 17 years (or 20, depending on where you start the clock!), motivating and inspiring us to strive for 17 more. I hope you'll stop by soon and please, keep the feedback coming.

M76

Oct 12, 2019 - permalink

...Never

FTFY

I'll never forgive you for simply deleting one of the still remaining active forums about female muscle.

The site just gives off a bad vibe, with the webcam stuff mixed in it feels cheap. Well if I'm being honest your videos always felt kind of cheap, but we accepted the low quality for the price and quantity.

Talking about price please don't try to do both vod and membership at the same time, it makes it seem like you want people to pay twice. Either, or and not both.

And it is not necessary to do 15 updates a day, I'd rather you did one big update every week, or twice a week max and not chop up shoots into a trillion tiny fragments.

And why are you padding updates with old videos if you have as many shoots as you claim? Some of the supposed updates are videos I think I saw many years ago.

And finally, this is just my personal preference, but I avoid any videos where the models are in full tan, and unfortunately 99% of your videos are like that. That was a big beef of mine with herbiceps content even before this makeover.

I wish you another 17 years, but without radical change I doubt I'll be joining you any time soon.

scandinavian

Oct 15, 2019 - permalink

Although I do not agree with m76 on the video quality, I do agree on the forum comment. You did create a better forum alternative to thevalkyrie, from back in the days, and I thank you for that! But your platform became ours too with time. You don't have to respect or accept that, but from a user perspective, what you did was a dick move, that disregarded the importance of quality stories, a place to meet other with the same fetish, and even old friendships. I know your reply is, that it was a necessary move. But you could have done a ton of moves instead of just letting it die, without any warning.

You've lost a customer here too, at least for a good while.

hbplus

Oct 17, 2019 - permalink

Although I do not agree with m76 on the video quality, I do agree on the forum comment. You did create a better forum alternative to thevalkyrie, from back in the days, and I thank you for that! But your platform became ours too with time. You don't have to respect or accept that, but from a user perspective, what you did was a dick move, that disregarded the importance of quality stories, a place to meet other with the same fetish, and even old friendships. I know your reply is, that it was a necessary move. But you could have done a ton of moves instead of just letting it die, without any warning.

You've lost a customer here too, at least for a good while.

It has been interesting to hear how much so many people enjoyed the forum. I get that people - even those who have been with us the longest - can't understand the rationale for the ultimate decision here, and I also get that you don't care about the thought process. I hate making excuses and to me, explanations always sound like excuses. I'm not sure how closely you followed the forum, but over the past few years, the majority of feedback we were receiving was about the lack of content updates. Based on the data we were receiving, as soon as we had a ready-to-launch platform, we HAD to go with it and we had to be all-in.

We definitely appreciate all feedback and if a solution does come along that can provide those missing elements you have outlined above and it's something that can be effectively and smoothly integrated, we are open to potentially creating a new forum. We want people present and engaging, so hopefully you will come back sooner rather than later and keep letting us know your thoughts.

jester105

Oct 21, 2019 - permalink

" Based on the data we were receiving, as soon as we had a ready-to-launch platform, we HAD to go with it and we had to be all-in." But I sorrowfully have to say you did not launch a complete platform. By dropping the forums you simply skipped a , for many members, integral part. The "it did not fit" just doesn't sound right. You guys have brought us the best product for quite awhile( IMHO). The skills sets you brought to the table, filming, interview, editing, and computer skills were and are all top notch. That is why the glaring omission of a major section of the site is causing such an issue. it is a bit hard to swallow that there was no way to carry over the forums, even if was just a restart ( you have done this before). I will not be so drastic as to swear off your site and never be back. I'm a realist, I still like what you are doing and will keep an eye on the site. I just feel let down that with all your history of great services, you dropped a solid connection to your clients.

hbplus

Oct 23, 2019 - permalink

I'll never forgive you for simply deleting one of the still remaining active forums about female muscle.

The site just gives off a bad vibe, with the webcam stuff mixed in it feels cheap. Well if I'm being honest your videos always felt kind of cheap, but we accepted the low quality for the price and quantity.

Talking about price please don't try to do both vod and membership at the same time, it makes it seem like you want people to pay twice. Either, or and not both.

And it is not necessary to do 15 updates a day, I'd rather you did one big update every week, or twice a week max and not chop up shoots into a trillion tiny fragments.

And why are you padding updates with old videos if you have as many shoots as you claim? Some of the supposed updates are videos I think I saw many years ago.

And finally, this is just my personal preference, but I avoid any videos where the models are in full tan, and unfortunately 99% of your videos are like that. That was a big beef of mine with herbiceps content even before this makeover.

I wish you another 17 years, but without radical change I doubt I'll be joining you any time soon.

I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts with us. We understand that not everyone is able to separate the two very different sides of our operation and we have always understood that webcam isn't for everyone. And even among content-only clients, some only want one-price member site material, while others want that, plus VOD. We want to meet every potential customer where they are ready to engage and we hope they'll feel they got good value. A visitor can enjoy the main model site for free or they can buy a membership or they can just buy VODs.

I've looked at sample clips from multiple sites this past year and my impressions don't match yours at all. Sure, back in 2005 and even in 2010, we were producing clips of a much lower quality than we've been shooting the past 5 years. It goes without saying that you like what you like, but I think our product stacks up very well against the competition. We are always looking to improve and we are always listening to customer feedback on what they'd like to see.

Customers have requested that we revive some of the old content, so we are responding to that demand. We do shoot full-time, so a lot of models are not wearing competition tan. But when we travel to shows, in order to get the best physiques, that's going to mean models with competition tans. It may not be to your liking, but we get more demand for contest/near-contest models than we do for off-season.

I don't know that there are any radical changes on the near horizon, but we hope you will stop in from time-to-time, see what we're up to, and share your thoughts.

<div class="quoteheader"><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">I&#039;ll never forgive you for simply deleting one of the still remaining active forums about female muscle. The site just gives off a bad vibe, with the webcam stuff mixed in it feels cheap.&nbsp; Well if I&#039;m being honest your videos always felt kind of cheap, but we accepted the low quality for the price and quantity. Talking about price please don&#039;t try to do both vod and membership at the same time, it makes it seem like you want people to pay twice. Either, or and not both. And it is not necessary to do 15 updates a day, I&#039;d rather you did one big update every week, or twice a week max and not chop up shoots into a trillion tiny fragments. And why are you padding updates with old videos if you have as many shoots as you claim?&nbsp; Some of the supposed updates are videos I think I saw many years ago. And finally, this is just my personal preference, but I avoid any videos where the models are in full tan, and unfortunately 99% of your videos are like that. That was a big beef of mine with herbiceps content even before this makeover. I wish you another 17 years, but without radical change I doubt I&#039;ll be joining you any time soon. </blockquote></div> I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts with us. We understand that not everyone is able to separate the two very different sides of our operation and we have always understood that webcam isn&#039;t for everyone. And even among content-only clients, some only want one-price member site material, while others want that, plus VOD.&nbsp; We want to meet every potential customer where they are ready to engage and we hope they&#039;ll feel they got good value. A visitor can enjoy the main model site for free or they can buy a membership or they can just buy VODs. I&#039;ve looked at sample clips from multiple sites this past year and my impressions don&#039;t match yours at all.&nbsp; Sure, back in 2005 and even in 2010, we were producing clips of a much lower quality than we&#039;ve been shooting the past 5 years.&nbsp; It goes without saying that you like what you like, but I think our product stacks up very well against the competition. We are always looking to improve and we are always listening to customer feedback on what they&#039;d like to see. Customers have requested that we revive some of the old content, so we are responding to that demand. We do shoot full-time, so a lot of models are not wearing competition tan. But when we travel to shows, in order to get the best physiques, that&#039;s going to mean models with competition tans. It may not be to your liking, but we get more demand for contest/near-contest models than we do for off-season. I don&#039;t know that there are any radical changes on the near horizon, but we hope you will stop in from time-to-time, see what we&#039;re up to, and share your thoughts.

hbplus

Oct 29, 2019 - permalink

" Based on the data we were receiving, as soon as we had a ready-to-launch platform, we HAD to go with it and we had to be all-in." But I sorrowfully have to say you did not launch a complete platform. By dropping the forums you simply skipped a , for many members, integral part. The "it did not fit" just doesn't sound right. You guys have brought us the best product for quite awhile( IMHO). The skills sets you brought to the table, filming, interview, editing, and computer skills were and are all top notch. That is why the glaring omission of a major section of the site is causing such an issue. it is a bit hard to swallow that there was no way to carry over the forums, even if was just a restart ( you have done this before). I will not be so drastic as to swear off your site and never be back. I'm a realist, I still like what you are doing and will keep an eye on the site. I just feel let down that with all your history of great services, you dropped a solid connection to your clients.

We appreciate your kind words. If it had been simply a matter of loading up an extra trunk on the trailer and hauling it off to the new house, we could have done that, but unfortunately, that's not the way databases work. The foundation of the new platform did not support any of the architecture of the old. Could it have continued to exist in a standalone space that we just linked out to? I suppose that's possible, but one of the primary objectives of the upgrade was to bring all the site management to a single, virtual nexus.

If there is a forum product out there that can be integrated into the site and which may add value, we are open to considering it down the road, but for now, we're encouraging users with feedback to email us or to use the direct commenting feature on the videos they like or dislike. We still enjoy the engagement, so hit us with anything that's on your mind. :)

<div class="quoteheader"><blockquote class="bbc_standard_quote">&quot; Based on the data we were receiving, as soon as we had a ready-to-launch platform, we HAD to go with it and we had to be all-in.&quot; But I sorrowfully have to say you did not&nbsp; launch a complete platform. By dropping the forums you simply skipped a , for many members, integral&nbsp; part.&nbsp; The &quot;it did not fit&quot; just doesn&#039;t sound right. You guys have brought us the best product for quite awhile( IMHO). The skills sets you brought to the table, filming, interview, editing, and computer skills were and are all top notch. That is why the glaring omission of a major section of the site is causing such an issue. it is a bit hard to swallow that there was no way to carry over the forums, even if was just a restart ( you have done this before). I will not be so drastic as to swear off your site and never be back. I&#039;m a realist, I still like what you are doing and will keep an eye on the site. I just feel let down that with all your history of great services, you dropped a solid connection to your clients. </blockquote></div> We appreciate your kind words. If it had been simply a matter of loading up an extra trunk on the trailer and hauling it off to the new house, we could have done that, but unfortunately, that&#039;s not the way databases work.&nbsp; The foundation of the new platform did not support any of the architecture of the old. Could it have continued to exist in a standalone space that we just linked out to? I suppose that&#039;s possible, but one of the primary objectives of the upgrade was to bring all the site management to a single, virtual nexus. If there is a forum product out there that can be integrated into the site and which may add value, we are open to considering it down the road, but for now, we&#039;re encouraging users with feedback to email us or to use the direct commenting feature on the videos they like or dislike. We still enjoy the engagement, so hit us with anything that&#039;s on your mind. :)

cgsweat★

Oct 30, 2019 - permalink

I for one love the new site layout. And it will be perfect once all the content from the old site is transferred. It was getting to be frustrating trying to scroll down an endless list of names that stretched back almost 20 years on a plain white background XD

jester105

Nov 03, 2019 - permalink

The long list of data you refer to cgsweat could have been dealt with from the beginning. I'm sure alphabetizing the entries would have been a basic function of programming. But might I note, the entries still, though grouped by type, are still randomly ordered making scrolling through the data base the only way to find a specific lady. Guess the " new, better" platform does not support this either.

stevebob

Nov 20, 2019 - permalink

The new site started out promisingly but has regressed quickly. The content they do put out is still top notch but I've always advocated for more variety. My personal favourite is the pushup contests but really any strength based challenge is good and often highlights a model's strength and competitiveness. Sadly 90% of any strength stuff ends up in expensive VOD's and recently a lot of the content, although still good, has been stuff that was already released towards the tail end of the last site.

I realise it's a popular fetish but I really wish they'd dial back on the male domination aspect and instead focus on the pure feats of the model. They make it out like models only enjoy demonstrating their power if they're doing it at the expense of men, a simple lift and carry is really not that impressive when the guy is only 100lb and some of these girls are absolute athletes. There's so much fun they could have with exercise challenges; how many pushups? How many pullups? How much can they curl? How many reps can they curl? How much can they leg press? How long can they hold a lateral dumbbell raise? Some of this stuff has been done but it's a rarity.

In my eyes the old metal plank and grip strength challenges were a success as they were so spirited. I believe this was because it was often brought up how well other models had done in the challenge, what the average was, what the best score of the day was, what the record was, etc. You would often hear models comment on these things and I believe that this really drove up competitiveness. With all the ongoing "challenges", if you can call them that, there is never any sense of competition. If it was mentioned that the best number of pushups for the day was 60 I can bet you there'd be a few models who would be busting a gut to beat it. But there's never anything of the sort and instead even the most enthusiastic models usually tap out at a nice round number the moment it gets a little tough. Sure, some models might be put off as they know they won't get anywhere that number but some of the truly strong models will know they have it in them to go beyond that count, and that's when you start to get some truly impressive feats.

Don't get me wrong, the site still has quality content. But the update quality has nosedived in recent weeks and to me it's potential to celebrate the beauty and strength of these models is still completely untapped.

The new site started out promisingly but has regressed quickly. The content they do put out is still top notch but I&#039;ve always advocated for more variety. My personal favourite is the pushup contests but really any strength based challenge is good and often highlights a model&#039;s strength and competitiveness. Sadly 90% of any strength stuff ends up in expensive VOD&#039;s and recently a lot of the content, although still good, has been stuff that was already released towards the tail end of the last site. I realise it&#039;s a popular fetish but I really wish they&#039;d dial back on the male domination aspect and instead focus on the pure feats of the model. They make it out like models only enjoy demonstrating their power if they&#039;re doing it at the expense of men, a simple lift and carry is really not that impressive when the guy is only 100lb and some of these girls are absolute athletes. There&#039;s so much fun they could have with exercise challenges; how many pushups? How many pullups? How much can they curl? How many reps can they curl? How much can they leg press? How long can they hold a lateral dumbbell raise? Some of this stuff has been done but it&#039;s a rarity. In my eyes the old metal plank and grip strength challenges were a success as they were so spirited. I believe this was because it was often brought up how well other models had done in the challenge, what the average was, what the best score of the day was, what the record was, etc. You would often hear models comment on these things and I believe that this really drove up competitiveness. With all the ongoing &quot;challenges&quot;, if you can call them that, there is never any sense of competition. If it was mentioned that the best number of pushups for the day was 60 I can bet you there&#039;d be a few models who would be busting a gut to beat it. But there&#039;s never anything of the sort and instead even the most enthusiastic models usually tap out at a nice round number the moment it gets a little tough. Sure, some models might be put off as they know they won&#039;t get anywhere that number but some of the truly strong models will know they have it in them to go beyond that count, and that&#039;s when you start to get some truly impressive feats. Don&#039;t get me wrong, the site still has quality content. But the update quality has nosedived in recent weeks and to me it&#039;s potential to celebrate the beauty and strength of these models is still completely untapped.