This is a good idea. But it should be a way to avoid people from renaming pictures with wrong names just to get bonuses.
Personally I find the names useful. If I want to look at one specific model on the site, how am I supposed to do that?
Given that people will game the system, I agree that any incentive must be created with that as a concern. I'd rather have no signal when it comes to a name, than noise because people are just putting in random names.
Maybe do something else: if a favourite uploader starts adding names, when they didn't previously, then PM them and say thank you. Sometimes the human touch is better than any algorithm.
Thanks to the people who upload, providing the pix i love. i dont have the time or expertise to do it. i don't want to see uploaders penalized for Not providing a name, but a reward for people who do provide a name, that i think is best. One thing, IF she is Ms. Olympia or some such could there be a line for that, too.? i am a big fan of this site, the ladies, the photographers, uploaders,and schmucks who make this a great place for people who love the female form.
First of all: Maybe the word "penalty" was a bit harsh or you only read the title. I don't want to imprison you if you upload one image without a name, nor do I want to permanently ban your account, nor do I want you to lose all of your direct uploads. And more important, you wouldn't be punished right after uploading but rather several hours later if still nobody (you or someone else) named your image. If you actually don't know the name, then it's still possible that someone else names your image for you, but if you already pissed off some users and they don't want to help you out, then you should give a name next time (Again: IF YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THE NAME AND YOU'RE JUST TOO LAZY TO DO IT BY YOURSELF).
I will address some points:
I feel it's not good to punish people providing work for free for the website.
You already get punished for duplicate uploads. It's not just that your image is merged into another one, you also lose one direct upload and this is just fair. Yes, we are doing this in our free time, but please don't just throw everything you can find on GWM without checking if this image may be uploaded already. This is pure laziness because others have to clean up your stuff by reporting it. Obviously, I don't want you to look through dozens of pages of a single woman to look for duplicates, but if you upload a recent image from Instagram then there's a high chance of a duplicate.
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Not everybody who comes to this site can recognise every single athlete, bodybuilder, figure/fitness model etc in the world, let alone know them all by name
It's not about naming images from other users. It's about naming your own uploads if you know the name, because you just downloaded it from their Instagram page.
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Sometimes it's too tedious to tag name. [...] use my phone to upload directly [...]
Agree, on phones it may be tedious. Maybe you can suggest a new design that will motivate you a bit more ;) CC: @Chainer
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What would prevent people from adding any name, no matter if it is correct, in order to avoid being penalized?
This is simply bad behaviour. If you already take the time to select the fields and put random characters in there then you can just give the damn name. Again, I don't want to kill you, you'll only lose one direct upload (of your 5 to 7) if you play this stupid game - this hurts nobody.
On the other hand there's currently no system to vote on names (theres another thread about a possible new tag system which could work similar) so how do you want to reward users who give correct names, if there's no validation? At the moment (!) it's more feasible to "punish" those who just don't give a name.
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if you dont know who the girl is, then DON'T POST IT. Thanks!
I like that you're likeminded, but I don't want people to be discouraged! If you don't know the name you should still upload it, but if you're too lazy then you should accept to lose one direct upload. Just like how it's done with dupliactes.
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What should be discouraged is not entering the name if you know it.
What seems undesirable to me is a habit of constantly uploading photos with no names without making the effort to add names.
Amen. This is exactly what I wanted to express.
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I gotta admit I have on ocasion uploaded without a name, I wasn't aware it pissed people so much :( Now I feel guity...
Please, don't feel guilty and don't stop uploading! (Btw, you have great uploads) This "penalty" focuses more on very active uploaders and not users you upload once in a while - the latter wouldn't even notice it if one direct upload is missing.
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Yes, it is time consuming to add a name but quite often it's just laziness. Especially in tempp's case. [...] It pisses me off because he's got privileges to post unlimited unlike the rest of us.
I used to go in and add the full names for his posts, so the great file system that was created works and a girls pictures stay together. Then I found out his privileges and said "F" this I'm not doing his work. [...]
[...] that is why I makes sure I give you all a name, because if you're really Jonesing for more of a girl, you can at least try to track her pics down yourself on the web.
10/10, absolutely agree.
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Giving your name is always voluntary. And you can‘t exclude anyone simply because she doesn‘t want her name to be known.
Are there cases where this is true? How would you even handle this? If someone gives the name then you delete it every time? And in case of a self-upload you can use your username (which is hopefully anonymous, if you want your images to be anonymous. Otherwise it would defeat the purpose).
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Wtf is the big deal if the photo has a name or not? Penalty for not naming the pic? Lmao thats so Corny go sit at the kiddie table cry babies
A hit dog will holler. May I ask where you have your uploaded images from?
I know that there are other opinions in the world but we here in Europe belive in the right to remain anonymous. In fact it is written down in chapter 8 of the European Charta of fundamental rights. Giving your name is always voluntary. And you can‘t exclude anyone simply because she doesn‘t want her name to be known.
Besides these legal thoughts it would be a pity to loose all the pretty, often neither roided nor photoshopped girls who want to stay anonymous...
Is this kindergarden? I get it you like your picture with names, but sometimes its hard or time consuming to tag a name to a photo.
On the flip side, you rather have lots of content, where you can do your own reseach to find a name OR punish contributor because they haven't included names, and thin down the pool of content.
I know I prefer the former option.
Yes, it is time consuming to add a name but quite often it's just laziness. Especially in tempp's case. He'll down load a group of 3 or 4 pics of a girl and maybe name one, and not name the others or give only the first name. It pisses me off because he's got privileges to post unlimited unlike the rest of us.
I used to go in and add the full names for his posts, so the great file system that was created works and a girls pictures stay together. Then I found out his privileges and said "F" this I'm not doing his work. I have a ton of pictures to upload and have much of what he's uploaded... only difference is if I got to upload it before tempp, they would have been named.
Also I've been messaged many times by guys asking to upload more of a girl I recently uploaded, but with limited uploads I can't do that, but that is why I makes sure I give you all a name, because if you're really Jonesing for more of a girl, you can at least try to track her pics down yourself on the web.
All right, everyone shut up, we should have a penalty for unnamed photos like Inagine said, and that's final. Its not fair for us to not know who the girl is. Ive said many time before on many images, if you dont know who the girl is, then DON'T POST IT. Thanks!
Damn, why are you so hostile dude?
Why do you even want the name so bad? To stalk them? I won't be part of the creep show
And... Not fair? In what sense? Do these people owe you something? For someone with no material shared, that's some mighty high thinking right there. You should try the process of uploading stuff, tagging them, and trying to name them. The content on the site is free and they probably don't have people to do that stuff for us so they rely on the community. Be grateful that people are even bothering to search for content and upload them here
It isn't necessarily "bad" to upload photo without a name. As some have mentioned, the name is not always known and there's nothing wrong with not knowing.
What seems undesirable to me is a habit of constantly uploading photos with no names without making the effort to add names.
The highest quality upload has 4 attributes: 1. conforms to site posting rules; 2. Has accurate tags; 3. Has accurate name; 4. Is not a duplicate.
Maybe the solution is to reward entering correct names on any pics, not just your own uploads.
I agree with this. Maybe more direct uploads as a reward?
This could also reward users who like to add names as a housekeeping activity (assuming a few folks do this).
The vast majority of models ask for their images to be removed without stating why. Most couldn't be bothered to have that kind of elaborate technical conversation.
Yup, this; I couldn't have said it better.
But what about the usernames in comment sections and here in the forum?
We are obligated to remove pictures when the owner of the picture makes a valid copyright claim to remove it. We are not obligated to remove most discussions about particular people.
Whether I would actually remove discussion about someone from the forum upon request depends on the context. If it's something inconsequential like talking about their apprearance, I'd probably remove it as a courtesy. However, if it's something like reviews of a product they're offering, like an Onlyfans page, and they don't like the contents of the reviews... I would be resistant to removing that.
if you dont know who the girl is, then DON'T POST IT.
This is absolutely incorrect and the posting of good pics should be encouraged whether you know the name or not.
What should be discouraged is not entering the name if you know it. However, rewarding people for entering a name on their uploads (or punishing them if they don't; these two give the same incentive, just one is nicer than the other) risks discouraging uploading good pics of unknowns at all, which as I just said, is something I want to encourage. Several of you brought up this concern above and I want to echo it as a concern I have as well.
Maybe the solution is to reward entering correct names on any pics, not just your own uploads. Currently the site doesn't reward this in any way. I'm not sure what would be a good reward though.
I wish morphs were allowed.
That's a discussion for a different thread, but the short answer is they are not going to be allowed on the main site; they are allowed in the Fantasy section of the forum.
I wish morphs were allowed. The model's name should be changed to "morph" (since it's not actually her). Moreover, morphs would not appear in any of the categories on the homepage, so the only way to view morphs would involve explicitly seeking them out.
All right, everyone shut up, we should have a penalty for unnamed photos like Inagine said, and that's final. Its not fair for us to not know who the girl is. Ive said many time before on many images, if you dont know who the girl is, then DON'T POST IT. Thanks!
Penalty? Really?? Hell, I'm just happy to see so many new images of the women we adore. Sure a name would be nice but punishing an uploader...not a good idea.
Google could also penalise the site if it is found a human sees things differently the search engine.
Quite honestly if someone doesn't want to be found by a search, then they are probably just better off asking for their images to be removed. This is a public collection of model images and should be treated as such.
One thing I have seen in other sites, is that if you delete a comment for which there are already follow up comments, then it will be indicated "deleted by x", but if it is the last comment it is properly deleted. The reasoning being that a indicating that a comment was deleted gives indication of how the follow up comments might have been influenced by it.
I'd be against any penalty for not providing a name. As already stated in another thread not all public pictures have names associated with them. Penalising someone for not providing a name would likely dissuade them from uploading the image. This creates the issues now not only do you have an image without a name, but you also have one less image that the community could have appreciated.
Since anyone can provide a name for an image, I would suggest providing the name if you know it or do a reverse Google Image search and see if you can help fill in the blank. This is better than dissing people who didn't provide a name.
For anyone who doesn't want to appear in Google, but is fine with remaining on GWM, you can set their page to noindex. Just a small line of code that would need to be added. With that, their page won't show in any search engine. You can do this with as many individual pages as you want without hurting the SEO of the site as a whole.
The vast majority of models ask for their images to be removed without stating why. Most couldn't be bothered to have that kind of elaborate technical conversation.
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Given that people will game the system, I agree that any incentive must be created with that as a concern. I'd rather have no signal when it comes to a name, than noise because people are just putting in random names.
Maybe do something else: if a favourite uploader starts adding names, when they didn't previously, then PM them and say thank you. Sometimes the human touch is better than any algorithm.
Thanks to the people who upload, providing the pix i love. i dont have the time or expertise to do it. i don't want to see uploaders penalized for Not providing a name, but a reward for people who do provide a name, that i think is best. One thing, IF she is Ms. Olympia or some such could there be a line for that, too.? i am a big fan of this site, the ladies, the photographers, uploaders,and schmucks who make this a great place for people who love the female form.
This is a good idea. But it should be a way to avoid people from renaming pictures with wrong names just to get bonuses.
Personally I find the names useful. If I want to look at one specific model on the site, how am I supposed to do that?
Wow, this really blew up.
First of all: Maybe the word "penalty" was a bit harsh or you only read the title. I don't want to imprison you if you upload one image without a name, nor do I want to permanently ban your account, nor do I want you to lose all of your direct uploads. And more important, you wouldn't be punished right after uploading but rather several hours later if still nobody (you or someone else) named your image. If you actually don't know the name, then it's still possible that someone else names your image for you, but if you already pissed off some users and they don't want to help you out, then you should give a name next time (Again: IF YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THE NAME AND YOU'RE JUST TOO LAZY TO DO IT BY YOURSELF).
I will address some points:
You already get punished for duplicate uploads. It's not just that your image is merged into another one, you also lose one direct upload and this is just fair. Yes, we are doing this in our free time, but please don't just throw everything you can find on GWM without checking if this image may be uploaded already. This is pure laziness because others have to clean up your stuff by reporting it. Obviously, I don't want you to look through dozens of pages of a single woman to look for duplicates, but if you upload a recent image from Instagram then there's a high chance of a duplicate.
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It's not about naming images from other users. It's about naming your own uploads if you know the name, because you just downloaded it from their Instagram page.
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Agree, on phones it may be tedious. Maybe you can suggest a new design that will motivate you a bit more ;) CC: @Chainer
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This is simply bad behaviour. If you already take the time to select the fields and put random characters in there then you can just give the damn name. Again, I don't want to kill you, you'll only lose one direct upload (of your 5 to 7) if you play this stupid game - this hurts nobody. On the other hand there's currently no system to vote on names (theres another thread about a possible new tag system which could work similar) so how do you want to reward users who give correct names, if there's no validation? At the moment (!) it's more feasible to "punish" those who just don't give a name.
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I like that you're likeminded, but I don't want people to be discouraged! If you don't know the name you should still upload it, but if you're too lazy then you should accept to lose one direct upload. Just like how it's done with dupliactes.
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Amen. This is exactly what I wanted to express.
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Please, don't feel guilty and don't stop uploading! (Btw, you have great uploads) This "penalty" focuses more on very active uploaders and not users you upload once in a while - the latter wouldn't even notice it if one direct upload is missing.
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10/10, absolutely agree.
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Are there cases where this is true? How would you even handle this? If someone gives the name then you delete it every time? And in case of a self-upload you can use your username (which is hopefully anonymous, if you want your images to be anonymous. Otherwise it would defeat the purpose).
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A hit dog will holler. May I ask where you have your uploaded images from?
Wtf is the big deal if the photo has a name or not? Penalty for not naming the pic? Lmao thats so Corny go sit at the kiddie table cry babies
I know that there are other opinions in the world but we here in Europe belive in the right to remain anonymous. In fact it is written down in chapter 8 of the European Charta of fundamental rights. Giving your name is always voluntary. And you can‘t exclude anyone simply because she doesn‘t want her name to be known.
Besides these legal thoughts it would be a pity to loose all the pretty, often neither roided nor photoshopped girls who want to stay anonymous...
Yes, it is time consuming to add a name but quite often it's just laziness. Especially in tempp's case. He'll down load a group of 3 or 4 pics of a girl and maybe name one, and not name the others or give only the first name. It pisses me off because he's got privileges to post unlimited unlike the rest of us.
I used to go in and add the full names for his posts, so the great file system that was created works and a girls pictures stay together. Then I found out his privileges and said "F" this I'm not doing his work. I have a ton of pictures to upload and have much of what he's uploaded... only difference is if I got to upload it before tempp, they would have been named.
Also I've been messaged many times by guys asking to upload more of a girl I recently uploaded, but with limited uploads I can't do that, but that is why I makes sure I give you all a name, because if you're really Jonesing for more of a girl, you can at least try to track her pics down yourself on the web.
I don't think penalties for nameless uploads would be a good idea as that would reduce the amount of uploads on this site
Damn, why are you so hostile dude? Why do you even want the name so bad? To stalk them? I won't be part of the creep show
And... Not fair? In what sense? Do these people owe you something? For someone with no material shared, that's some mighty high thinking right there. You should try the process of uploading stuff, tagging them, and trying to name them. The content on the site is free and they probably don't have people to do that stuff for us so they rely on the community. Be grateful that people are even bothering to search for content and upload them here
I gotta admit I have on ocasion uploaded without a name, I wasn't aware it pissed people so much :( Now I feel guity...
There are definitely users who like to do that, but they aren't necessarily the ones who upload a lot.
It isn't necessarily "bad" to upload photo without a name. As some have mentioned, the name is not always known and there's nothing wrong with not knowing.
What seems undesirable to me is a habit of constantly uploading photos with no names without making the effort to add names.
The highest quality upload has 4 attributes: 1. conforms to site posting rules; 2. Has accurate tags; 3. Has accurate name; 4. Is not a duplicate.
I agree with this. Maybe more direct uploads as a reward?
This could also reward users who like to add names as a housekeeping activity (assuming a few folks do this).
Ah yeah I like that approach.
I'll mark this as TODO but I don't know when I'll get to it.
Yup, this; I couldn't have said it better.
We are obligated to remove pictures when the owner of the picture makes a valid copyright claim to remove it. We are not obligated to remove most discussions about particular people.
Whether I would actually remove discussion about someone from the forum upon request depends on the context. If it's something inconsequential like talking about their apprearance, I'd probably remove it as a courtesy. However, if it's something like reviews of a product they're offering, like an Onlyfans page, and they don't like the contents of the reviews... I would be resistant to removing that.
This is absolutely incorrect and the posting of good pics should be encouraged whether you know the name or not.
What should be discouraged is not entering the name if you know it. However, rewarding people for entering a name on their uploads (or punishing them if they don't; these two give the same incentive, just one is nicer than the other) risks discouraging uploading good pics of unknowns at all, which as I just said, is something I want to encourage. Several of you brought up this concern above and I want to echo it as a concern I have as well.
Maybe the solution is to reward entering correct names on any pics, not just your own uploads. Currently the site doesn't reward this in any way. I'm not sure what would be a good reward though.
That's a discussion for a different thread, but the short answer is they are not going to be allowed on the main site; they are allowed in the Fantasy section of the forum.
I wish morphs were allowed. The model's name should be changed to "morph" (since it's not actually her). Moreover, morphs would not appear in any of the categories on the homepage, so the only way to view morphs would involve explicitly seeking them out.
All right, everyone shut up, we should have a penalty for unnamed photos like Inagine said, and that's final. Its not fair for us to not know who the girl is. Ive said many time before on many images, if you dont know who the girl is, then DON'T POST IT. Thanks!
Penalty? Really?? Hell, I'm just happy to see so many new images of the women we adore. Sure a name would be nice but punishing an uploader...not a good idea.
Google could also penalise the site if it is found a human sees things differently the search engine.
Quite honestly if someone doesn't want to be found by a search, then they are probably just better off asking for their images to be removed. This is a public collection of model images and should be treated as such.
One thing I have seen in other sites, is that if you delete a comment for which there are already follow up comments, then it will be indicated "deleted by x", but if it is the last comment it is properly deleted. The reasoning being that a indicating that a comment was deleted gives indication of how the follow up comments might have been influenced by it.
I'd be against any penalty for not providing a name. As already stated in another thread not all public pictures have names associated with them. Penalising someone for not providing a name would likely dissuade them from uploading the image. This creates the issues now not only do you have an image without a name, but you also have one less image that the community could have appreciated.
Since anyone can provide a name for an image, I would suggest providing the name if you know it or do a reverse Google Image search and see if you can help fill in the blank. This is better than dissing people who didn't provide a name.
I’d like a penalty for morphs.
One in particular keeps popping up and it’s so obvious. Stop!
Yeah, this is probably the best route to go about unnamed women. People like to be rewarded.
The vast majority of models ask for their images to be removed without stating why. Most couldn't be bothered to have that kind of elaborate technical conversation.