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I just want to quickly respond to the trope that never dies around these parts: muscular women will only settle for a man who's more muscular than them.
This is a convenient excuse for anyone who might otherwise question why they can't meet a jacked girl, despite being obsessed with jacked girls. Here's the truth from my POV (a master's IFBB pro):
Being a bodybuilder is a huge commitment of time and lifestyle. It's lifting and eating and sleeping. It's very rigorous and disciplined. It may or may not be a "sport," but the people involved are definitely athletes.
For the most part: a dedicated female athlete will have a difficult time relating to a man who is not an athlete himself.
I don't think that you have to be a bodybuilder, or necessarily more muscular than her. Most FBB's wouldn't turn down a charming serious cyclist or swimmer or basketball player or whatever. But yeah, you can't be the typical overweight American guy who simply doesn't prioritize his body or his fitness. She won't identify with you.
With two exceptions that I've seen: (1) you met her before she started lifting, like Angie Yeo's husband or (2) you're incredibly wealthy and she doesn't have to work or worry about money.
Real talk: if you want a super buff woman to like you and - for whatever odd reason - you're too lazy or resistant to get really fit yourself, then simply work on getting really rich. If you're in college, then just start saving for med school now.
Real talk: if you want a super buff woman to like you and - for whatever odd reason - you're too lazy or resistant to get really fit yourself, then simply work on getting really rich. If you're in college, then just start saving for med school now.
Discipline and motivation cuts across domains. Many bodybuilders are already successful in a career. Folks who are "lazy and resistant" are unlikely to get rich off of their own earnings.
I just want to quickly respond to the trope that never dies around these parts: muscular women will only settle for a man who's more muscular than them.
This is a convenient excuse for anyone who might otherwise question why they can't meet a jacked girl, despite being obsessed with jacked girls. Here's the truth from my POV (a master's IFBB pro):
Being a bodybuilder is a huge commitment of time and lifestyle. It's lifting and eating and sleeping. It's very rigorous and disciplined. It may or may not be a "sport," but the people involved are definitely athletes.
For the most part: a dedicated female athlete will have a difficult time relating to a man who is not an athlete himself.
I don't think that you have to be a bodybuilder, or necessarily more muscular than her. Most FBB's wouldn't turn down a charming serious cyclist or swimmer or basketball player or whatever. But yeah, you can't be the typical overweight American guy who simply doesn't prioritize his body or his fitness. She won't identify with you.
With two exceptions that I've seen: (1) you met her before she started lifting, like Angie Yeo's husband or (2) you're incredibly wealthy and she doesn't have to work or worry about money.
Real talk: if you want a super buff woman to like you and - for whatever odd reason - you're too lazy or resistant to get really fit yourself, then simply work on getting really rich. If you're in college, then just start saving for med school now.
A good friend of mine at my old CrossFit gym is an absolute beast. She is an Rx-Rx+ level athlete (which means that she is in the upper echelon of CrossFit performers without being "elite level." Her fiance is not near her fitness level (he can do some workouts Rx, but scales more often than not,) but he trains hard and they also work out together
You don't have to be more fit or stronger than a muscular woman to get their attention, but you need to put effort into your own fitness. I have known a lot of fit and strong women at my old gym, and not all of them had partners who were more muscular or stronger than them.
This is a convenient excuse for anyone who might otherwise question why they can't meet a jacked girl, despite being obsessed with jacked girls.
Can you provide some facts? How many female bodybuilders date men who are less muscular? Are you in a relationship with a woman who is more muscular?
For the most part: a dedicated female athlete will have a difficult time relating to a man who is not an athlete himself.
Exactly. She isn't necessarily interested in a bodybuilder, but rather in someone who shares her Lifestyle. You don't have to be a bodybuilder, but definitely need to train at a high Level.
I don't think that you have to be a bodybuilder, or necessarily more muscular than her. Most FBB's wouldn't turn down a charming serious cyclist or swimmer or basketball player or whatever.
For the first part I agree but for the second part: What kind of proof/facts can you provide?
But yeah, you can't be the typical overweight American guy who simply doesn't prioritize his body or his fitness. She won't identify with you.
Thx for stating the obvious.
I have known a lot of fit and strong women at my old gym, and not all of them had partners who were more muscular or stronger than them.
Interesting. I've been to many Gyms/CrossFit boxes and never met a Fbb. So what are we talking about? Are you talking about women going to the Gym who are fit? Well, that's not hard. And yea, they all have partners/husbands who aren't bodybuilders because they aren't bodybuilders themselves.
"muscular women will only settle for a man who's more muscular than them."
it's not about how muscular the guy is.
it's about the connection of sharing activities and a lifestyle.
you see this in crossfit a lot.
bodybuilding is the ultimate self absorbed activity that's why so many are single.
but there's always exceptions.
for example sarah villegas is with a rich russian dude who owns a private airplane.
but yeah fbbs are very weird.
they could literally hook up with a guy any minute they want.
but they don't want a guy, they just want EVERY SINGLE GUY TO DESIRE THEM.
> > > Weird projection. > > Is he right? Is your partner muscular, or just some mid chick you were forced to settle with?
The only projection is coming from the incel and/or incels in this thread who think their lack of success with women is about anything beyond their own mediocrity.
The OP went from whining about women ignoring him on instagram to ranting about how most women are mediocre and he only settles for 10s. This is obviously unhinged to anybody who isn't an incel, which says a lot about you since you seem to agree with him.
Lets be honest are you telling me you are some kind of stud with women? Most women on a forum about muscular women are gonna be the same kind of greasy old or shapeless fucks who pay for sessions.
> > > Weird projection. > > Is he right? Is your partner muscular, or just some mid chick you were forced to settle with?
The only projection is coming from the incel and/or incels in this thread who think their lack of success with women is about anything beyond their own mediocrity.
The OP went from whining about women ignoring him on instagram to ranting about how most women are mediocre and he only settles for 10s. This is obviously unhinged to anybody who isn't an incel, which says a lot about you since you seem to agree with him.
From the woman's perspective I can see your point here.
But let's be real, if you or the OP could somehow manage to bamboozle a mediocre woman into the sack with you you'd think you had won the lottery. You wouldn't be the ones trading down.
This whole 'I only date 10s' thing is just a weird psychological self-defense mechanism to help you come to terms with why you can't date anyone at all. Like, it's all just because Scarlett Johansson is never free on the same evenings as you, and all the other women are being rejected by you not the other way around!
Am willing to bet that you two would jump at the chance to share a single mediocre woman if the opportunity ever came up, would flip a coin about who was going to be the bottom when she told you she wanted to watch some foreplay, agree to tell everyone that there was a no eye-contact rule and that you wouldn't let slip that you ended up mutually agreeing rather than flipping the coin in the end, and it would still be the best and most sexually active night of your respective lives.
Obvs joryboyd would end up being the receiver. Let's not kid ourselves about how that negotiation is going to go.
Again, lets be honest. Are you going to pretend like the other dude you are getting muscular women on the reg? Or even at all? I can promise you, and I cant speak for op, but some of us would be miserable settling. Why? Because we tried it. I did anyway. It made me bitter, resentful and mean as fuck. I took it out verbally on the person for not being what i wanted. It was wrong and horrible and fucked up. I vowed I would rather be alone than make someone feel like shit again. I fucked up thinking I could force myself to be with someone i didnt want.
I wouldnt put it crudely like dating only tens, thats ridiculous. I do only find muscular women attractive though. I cant help that. Believe you fucking me , if i could change that i would in a single instant. No question about it I would change.
I am trying to be better and self improve in every respect. I have had a lot of issues in my life physically and mentally and i need to try to fix that. And in terms of mediocre i meant looks wise, its not a comment on character . Theres plenty of great people who arent lookers exactly. But i know i cant force myself to be with someone. I would rather be and have been alone. I can promise you you can find me ten women who would date me and if they arent muscular i just wouldnt be interested. Not a comment on them, its just how i am. I cant help it.
Im not totally agreeing with all of his tone or way he puts things. But i do feel his frustration when it comes to meeting muscular women.
Can you provide some facts? How many female bodybuilders date men who are less muscular? Are you in a relationship with a woman who is more muscular?
For the first part I agree but for the second part: What kind of proof/facts can you provide?
Bro, I can't give you official stats on the exact size and shape of every female bodybuilder's male partner. I'm in the scene and I meet people's husbands and wives and I've met quite a few very buff women with male partners who are less muscular than them but athletic in their own way. I don't have a list, but off the top of my head:
Shannon Seeley Paige Sandgren Brittani Parish Alyssa Anderson (at least she was, they may have broken up?)
And no, I'm not in a relationship with any woman. I'm bisexual and having too much fun being single. I've been with a lot of muscular women though. About 1/3 of those were normal dates and hookups, with the other 2/3 being paid intimate sessions.
I don't mind paying. I love what these women do and I'm happy to support them. I recommend that everyone here tries it at least once.
Bro, I can't give you official stats on the exact size and shape of every female bodybuilder's male partner. I'm in the scene and I meet people's husbands and wives and I've met quite a few very buff women with male partners who are less muscular than them but athletic in their own way. I don't have a list, but off the top of my head:
Shannon Seeley Paige Sandgren Brittani Parish Alyssa Anderson (at least she was, they may have broken up?)
And no, I'm not in a relationship with any woman. I'm bisexual and having too much fun being single. I've been with a lot of muscular women though. About 1/3 of those were normal dates and hookups, with the other 2/3 being paid intimate sessions.
I don't mind paying. I love what these women do and I'm happy to support them. I recommend that everyone here tries it at least once.
Sessions arent a real relationship
also it's not a common practice for muscular females to offer services.
at least not ifbb level.
I just want a relationship not a service or sessions.
Bro, I can't give you official stats on the exact size and shape of every female bodybuilder's male partner. I'm in the scene and I meet people's husbands and wives and I've met quite a few very buff women with male partners who are less muscular than them but athletic in their own way. I don't have a list, but off the top of my head:
Shannon Seeley Paige Sandgren Brittani Parish Alyssa Anderson (at least she was, they may have broken up?)
Yea I know you can't provide official stats, that was more like a rhetorical question :). I’ve been going to FIBO for 15 years now. Sure, we talk to Fbbs and some of them are with partners who aren't as muscular. Let’s not make a big deal out of it: a) There are plenty of average guys who’d love to be with a Fbb but stand absolutely no chance. And b) There are users on this forum who talk about how "easy" it is to meet Fbbs. And that’s just not true. It’s simply wrong. The reality is they might have dated one or two women who were fit or toned or are married to a woman whos fit and now they believe they’re experts when it comes to dating.
And no, I'm not in a relationship with any woman. I'm bisexual and having too much fun being single. I've been with a lot of muscular women though. About 1/3 of those were normal dates and hookups, with the other 2/3 being paid intimate sessions.
Totally fine. That's an honest answer. I’m not in a relationship with a Fbb myself, but with an ordinary woman.
and I'm happy to support them.
Yup, 100% agree.
I just want a relationship not a service or sessions.
most people want this.
most people are not interested in having sex with 1000 people.
they just want someone to share their life.
the ones who want to have as much sex as possible with as much people as possible probably have some loose screw in their head.
Totally fine. That's an honest answer. I’m not in a relationship with a Fbb myself, but with an ordinary woman.
Yup, 100% agree.
Do you find being with an ordinary woman satisfying? Or would you prefer a muscular woman? Be honest
Do you find being with an ordinary woman satisfying? Or would you prefer a muscular woman? Be honest
A muscular woman. However, I’m not sure if that would be a "dream" Scenario. Imagine living together would be difficult, because she’s focused on training and eating. Another downside: the side effects. Whenever I talk to Fbbs at FIBO, I keep noticing drastic physical changes: a masculine jaw, sometimes facial hair, a deep voice and bad skin. That’s a real turn-off.
Do you find being with an ordinary woman satisfying? Or would you prefer a muscular woman? Be honest
if you are not satisfied being with an ordinary woman you are fucked.
fbbs are ordinary women who during a short period of their lives take steroids.
which brings us back to the original theme of this thread.
just try to become used to regular women and forget fbbs.
it's the best option in the long run.
if you are not satisfied being with an ordinary woman you are fucked.
fbbs are ordinary women who during a short period of their lives take steroids.
Thats my problem, Im fucked.
I dont find ordinary women attractive at all, just muscular ones
From the woman's perspective I can see your point here.
But let's be real, if you or the OP could somehow manage to bamboozle a mediocre woman into the sack with you you'd think you had won the lottery. You wouldn't be the ones trading down.
This whole 'I only date 10s' thing is just a weird psychological self-defense mechanism to help you come to terms with why you can't date anyone at all. Like, it's all just because Scarlett Johansson is never free on the same evenings as you, and all the other women are being rejected by you not the other way around!
Am willing to bet that you two would jump at the chance to share a single mediocre woman if the opportunity ever came up, would flip a coin about who was going to be the bottom when she told you she wanted to watch some foreplay, agree to tell everyone that there was a no eye-contact rule and that you wouldn't let slip that you ended up mutually agreeing rather than flipping the coin in the end, and it would still be the best and most sexually active night of your respective lives.
Obvs joryboyd would end up being the receiver. Let's not kid ourselves about how that negotiation is going to go.