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The comments about Kristina’s struggles with getting ripped are hitting the nail on the head. No matter how much commitment she made to bringing her upper body into balance with those world class legs, she was never gonna reach the level of muscle separation that would’ve helped her place higher at the bigger shows. I also agree that the doping/gear use part of things had to be a factor as well. I hope things work out for her in the wellness division. She’s certainly good looking enough and has the goods to be a star on that class.
Wellness and Bikini categories are a bane to this sport.
The problem is that's where women want to be. Well developed lower bodies with relatively little upper body development. That's also where the money and the clicks are. Yarishna Ayala has 3,500,000 followers on Instagram (and a ton of them are women who aspire to look like her), Andrea Shaw has 155,000 (and how many do you think are women that aspire to look like her? Not that many).
I never saw her in person. One thing I’ve learned is when you see them at a show in person it becomes more clear why they are placed where they are. Some are more impressive live and others it’s a surprise. All I can say is there has to be a reason for her not succeeding in WBB division. On paper she seemed prime to be pushed toward the top of the ranks.
She's gonna have to figure out how to shred her legs/glutes for Wellness, just like in FBB. And "plants" are essentially mandatory in Wellness.
I don’t think her legs are a problem. But I DO think it’s a shame about the plants because I liked her chest the way it was/is. I liked her body and her look overall.
The problem is that's where women want to be. Well developed lower bodies with relatively little upper body development. That's also where the money and the clicks are. Yarishna Ayala has 3,500,000 followers on Instagram (and a ton of them are women who aspire to look like her), Andrea Shaw has 155,000 (and how many do you think are women that aspire to look like her? Not that many).
Also, it wouldn't be a good strategy on Kristina's part if she continues to struggle in gaining ground in a division where she most likely doesn't have the genetics to compete with the top contenders. As much as I think some people don't want to admit it, genetics matter the most when you're at the elite level, and unfortunately, if you don't have them, no amount of training or gear use will get you there. It sucks for "schmoes" in the sense that I am sure many here don't want to see her downsize, but this is probably the best decision for her with regards to her career as a physique athlete.
Also, it wouldn't be a good strategy on Kristina's part if she continues to struggle in gaining ground in a division where she most likely doesn't have the genetics to compete with the top contenders. As much as I think some people don't want to admit it, genetics matter the most when you're at the elite level, and unfortunately, if you don't have them, no amount of training or gear use will get you there. It sucks for "schmoes" in the sense that I am sure many here don't want to see her downsize, but this is probably the best decision for her with regards to her career as a physique athlete.
That’s a really good way to explain what happens in terms of the top-ranking competitors. I’ll miss KNM in bodybuilding but a lot of wellness girls are stocky and broad and she’s gonna fit right in. She’s likely to be one of the bigger girls in the division and that’s gonna be a treat to see.
She looked amazing at last year's Olympia and still only got 5th. I think she's just come as far as she can in Bodybuilding.
Wellness is a new start for her and - as others have mentioned - it's FAR more mainstream and marketable.
Good for her. Hopefully it was her decision and not her controlling douche of a partner.
Female bodybuilding could've become, if not mainstream, appealing to more people with more pretty contestants as Kristina Nicole Mendoza beside Andrea Shaw.
I'm happy to see that the top female bodybuilders are getting bigger. I look forward to see a mass monster freak show Ms Olympia in the future, but without faces ruined by juice. I would've wanted Kristina Nicole Mendoza be on stage as one of those mass monster freaks with a pretty face.
Bodybuilding should be judged by physique alone, not how "pretty" someone is to a predominantly male gaze.
THANK YOU... exactly. Damn you never hear these standards for the male bodybuilders, and half of those guys juice themselves into looking a few steps down the ladder of evolution.
Also: I'd be pretty sure that she's doing this size downgrade to specifically minimize the "ruined by juice" aspect.
There is no way to be absolutely huge and lean for multiple years and not have dramatic changes to your face and hair. Male or female. Happens to everyone. If it's not your jam then there's always AI.
Bodybuilding should be judged by physique alone, not how "pretty" someone is to a predominantly male gaze.
Congratulations! This is why women's bodybuilding isn't popular, while other categories like Figure and Wellness are. The standard for women's bodybuilding should be Kristina Mendoza, not Andrea Shaw and her super square face when she's competing. That's the "real truth". But we know that not even the organizers value the category. Kristina made the right move; it will be better for her health and career, even if it costs her one of the most memorable physiques in women's bodybuilding, with grace, volume, and beauty.
Congratulations! This is why women's bodybuilding isn't popular, while other categories like Figure and Wellness are. The standard for women's bodybuilding should be Kristina Mendoza, not Andrea Shaw and her super square face when she's competing. That's the "real truth". But we know that not even the organizers value the category. Kristina made the right move; it will be better for her health and career, even if it costs her one of the most memorable physiques in women's bodybuilding, with grace, volume, and beauty.
Maybe women's bodybuilding doesn't need to be "mainstream." It is a disservice to deny Andrea Shaw Ms. Olympia titles when she is the most muscular competitor with the best conditioning and symmetry because "oh your face looks too square." Factors towards what is popular and well-regarded on the bodybuilding stage are different than in the fetish and schmoe world.
Nothing wrong with being a schmoe or having a fetish for muscular women, but I think some here need to remember that there is also a non-fetish and schmoe side to bodybuilding as well, and standards should not be changed where "oh, you need to be muscular but have a conventionally attractive face" or whatever. Kristina is great, but having conventionally attractive facial features doesn't make her better on the stage than Andrea Shaw or Angela Yeo.
And no, Wellness and Bikini are not a "bane of the sport." You should ask actual competitors and see if they agree with that lol.
Maybe women's bodybuilding doesn't need to be "mainstream." It is a disservice to deny Andrea Shaw Ms. Olympia titles when she is the most muscular competitor with the best conditioning and symmetry because "oh your face looks too square." Factors towards what is popular and well-regarded on the bodybuilding stage are different than in the fetish and schmoe world.
Nothing wrong with being a schmoe or having a fetish for muscular women, but I think some here need to remember that there is also a non-fetish and schmoe side to bodybuilding as well, and standards should not be changed where "oh, you need to be muscular but have a conventionally attractive face" or whatever. Kristina is great, but having conventionally attractive facial features doesn't make her better on the stage than Andrea Shaw or Angela Yeo.
And no, Wellness and Bikini are not a "bane of the sport." You should ask actual competitors and see if they agree with that lol.
Alot of people on here have trouble understanding that the look of the massive juiced up women just isn't popular and it chases women away from lifting weights and being fit in general. Even the figure/fitness look is stretching things for many women. Personally for me I find figure/fitness (and even the 'smaller' physique competitors) to be a good balance but it's become clear to me that the wellness category is probably the most mainstream competitive female muscle will get. Women aspire to look like Yarishna Ayala, Francielle Mattos, etc and most men would accept a woman that looks like them.
Maybe women's bodybuilding doesn't need to be "mainstream." It is a disservice to deny Andrea Shaw Ms. Olympia titles when she is the most muscular competitor with the best conditioning and symmetry because "oh your face looks too square." Factors towards what is popular and well-regarded on the bodybuilding stage are different than in the fetish and schmoe world.
Nothing wrong with being a schmoe or having a fetish for muscular women, but I think some here need to remember that there is also a non-fetish and schmoe side to bodybuilding as well, and standards should not be changed where "oh, you need to be muscular but have a conventionally attractive face" or whatever. Kristina is great, but having conventionally attractive facial features doesn't make her better on the stage than Andrea Shaw or Angela Yeo.
And no, Wellness and Bikini are not a "bane of the sport." You should ask actual competitors and see if they agree with that lol.
Maybe women's bodybuilding doesn't need to be "mainstream." It is a disservice to deny Andrea Shaw Ms. Olympia titles when she is the most muscular competitor with the best conditioning and symmetry because "oh your face looks too square." Factors towards what is popular and well-regarded on the bodybuilding stage are different than in the fetish and schmoe world.
Nothing wrong with being a schmoe or having a fetish for muscular women, but I think some here need to remember that there is also a non-fetish and schmoe side to bodybuilding as well, and standards should not be changed where "oh, you need to be muscular but have a conventionally attractive face" or whatever. Kristina is great, but having conventionally attractive facial features doesn't make her better on the stage than Andrea Shaw or Angela Yeo.
And no, Wellness and Bikini are not a "bane of the sport." You should ask actual competitors and see if they agree with that lol.
I think you're a bit lacking in text interpretation. But I'll clarify, no problem, as it might have been my poor English: believing that the female standard for the women's bodybuilding category should be Kristina Mendoza's physique has absolutely nothing to do with fetishism. It has to do with sensuality, because bodybuilding IS NOT A SPORT, IT'S A BEAUTY CONTEST, pure and simple.
Moving on to the second point that wasn't clear to you: at absolutely NO point did I say that the Figure and Wellness categories are the "bane" of the "sport." In fact, they are clearly the salvation of women's bodybuilding. These categories are where the prestige, money, and sponsors are.
Is my meaning clear now?
I think you're a bit lacking in text interpretation. But I'll clarify, no problem, as it might have been my poor English: believing that the female standard for the women's bodybuilding category should be Kristina Mendoza's physique has absolutely nothing to do with fetishism. It has to do with sensuality, because bodybuilding IS NOT A SPORT, IT'S A BEAUTY CONTEST, pure and simple.
Moving on to the second point that wasn't clear to you: at absolutely NO point did I say that the Figure and Wellness categories are the "bane" of the "sport." In fact, they are clearly the salvation of women's bodybuilding. These categories are where the prestige, money, and sponsors are.
Is my meaning clear now?
The reference to “wellness and bikini being a bane to sport” was in response to seggs saying it and biglar1 concurring. It’s why I made it a separate paragraph. I know you didn’t say that.
Looking forward to seeing her with implants though!
Don't even remind me about that... it's practically certain that she'll put it on, isn't it?
The reference to “wellness and bikini being a bane to sport” was in response to seggs saying it and biglar1 concurring. It’s why I made it a separate paragraph. I know you didn’t say that.
I think the lines between what are the requrements for each division being so blurry os what is really a bane to the sport... the overall size and number of competitors in these division are also in my opinion a bane to the sport... figure while being a larger division has in my opinion a balanced astetic physique. Imo i cpuld have lived with the wbb coming around to the type of conditioning she was bringing. Seeing her at the O was the nod, when linda murry is saying your someone to watch out for that is a pretty good sign no? The main reason for welness and fit model, bikini is money, they are apparently more well liked. I just wish ww could have seen how good she could have actually been
I just wish ww could have seen how good she could have actually been
As I mentioned earlier, I think she reached as far as she was going to go with her physique when she placed sixth at the Olympia. Bodybuilding at the elite level is all about genetics: they dictate how you respond to training, nutrition, body composition and even responding to gear. What we saw that year was most likely her absolute peak. Especially when it comes to gear usage, there is a point where the ROI on what you take, and how much of it, becomes very little for the amount of damage you do to your body. She may have realized that she would have had to get on a lot more for only marginal, if any, gains with high risk of negative sides and damage. Look at what happened to Dallas McCarver.
Moving to Wellness may be the smartest move in terms of success. It may even have nothing to do with being more liked, she might actually be able to place top 3, or even win.
Wellness and Bikini categories are a bane to this sport.