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Abuse of tags

tamarok
May 10, 2025 - permalink

Feat of strength is overused. A lot are just big heavy normal gym lifts not what would be traditionally considered a feat like an unusual heavy lift or movement.

There are many cases where there is not much (if any) muscle shown and really should be removed. I haven’t checked the tag in while, but makes me think I probably should.

May 10, 2025 - permalink

There are many cases where there is not much (if any) muscle shown and really should be removed. I haven’t checked the tag in while, but makes me think I probably should.

If there really isn’t any visible muscle, I think this is not a problem with the tag, and more of an issue with the image itself not belonging on this site.

I’ve used “feat of strength” a few times because it seems to be the best match for fitness strength moves, such as:

It also seems suited for heavy, lifting, such as:

https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/2100045/

Don’t agree with it in this case, though:

Maybe there is a different word or a phrase that better captures the overall idea?

May 10, 2025 - edited May 10, 2025 - permalink

But there isn't really any notable visible muscle in this, by your own stated criteria (which I agree with ) it doesn't belong here:

https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/2100045/

tamarok
May 10, 2025 - permalink

But there isn't really any notable visible muscle in this, by your own stated criteria (which I agree with ) it doesn't belong here:

https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/2100045/

The fact no one actually tagged any muscles (despite a good number of tags) on this one is also a confirmation of sorts

May 10, 2025 - permalink

But there isn't really any notable visible muscle in this, by your own stated criteria (which I agree with ) it doesn't belong here:

https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/2100045/

Good catch, I just honestly assumed muscle was there. I grabbed it as a quick example without any further analysis.

May 10, 2025 - permalink

I am fine with "teen" being loosely interpreted as "young adult", say < 25 y.o. or thereabouts.

In fact it would be very easy for me to rename it to literally "young adult", but then the meaning would get stretched to anyone < 50 y.o. and then it would truly be meaningless.

When you put it that way, the overall framing makes sense. I agree that attempting to change the wording would result in a disaster.

May 13, 2025 - permalink

I'm really in great difficult for choose tag for these type of videos.

All muscles in great shape and evidence, I try to choose but probably wrong.

Better more specific or more generic?!I don't know.

cgsweat
May 13, 2025 - permalink

I don't know about other users, but I personally never search using the "biceps" tag. It's overinflated with thousands of images that have little to nothing to do with biceps. I tend to use more specific tags, such as "front double biceps".

So, in my opinion, using a tag like "biceps" gives the image very little value in an image search. It will get lost at sea. I would prioritize using the more niche and specific tags. Just make sure the tags you are using actually fit in with the other images that are already using those tags.

May 13, 2025 - permalink

I don't know about other users, but I personally never search using the "biceps" tag. It's overinflated with thousands of images that have little to nothing to do with biceps. I tend to use more specific tags, such as "front double biceps".

So, in my opinion, using a tag like "biceps" gives the image very little value in an image search. It will get lost at sea. I would prioritize using the more niche and specific tags. Just make sure the tags you are using actually fit in with the other images that are already using those tags.

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May 13, 2025 - permalink

So, in my opinion, using a tag like "biceps" gives the image very little value in an image search. It will get lost at sea. I would prioritize using the more niche and specific tags. Just make sure the tags you are using actually fit in with the other images that are already using those tags.

I agree with you if using it on its own. Macro tags, such as biceps, or quads, will always yield a ton of results. However, I believe they are still important. They are most powerful when combined with other tags.

For example, an advanced search of calves, biceps, dress yields some pretty good results.

Using that last search as an example, if someone has specifically tagged “tennis ball biceps with indentation“ or some other crazy specific nonsense, that image would never show up in those results. (I like the v-arm press flex tag, for example, but for it to really work well with advanced searching, it needs to coexist with both “biceps” and “delts/shoulders”.)

I also imagine there could be a future enhancement where users can omit search results with certain tags. If/when that day comes, you can then query for photos and specifically exclude biceps.

tamarok
May 13, 2025 - permalink

One of the challenges is we have now 10 tags for abs and often images won’t include the tag “abs”, but one of the others. This forces you to search with one of the others, even if you didn’t care for that granularity.

May 13, 2025 - permalink

One of the challenges is we have now 10 tags for abs and often images won’t include the tag “abs”, but one of the others. This forces you to search with one of the others, even if you didn’t care for that granularity.

Granularity on its own can potentially be useful. But, there are three issues that are problematic, not just attributed to granularity. Let’s use “abs” as an example. The first issue: using a very specific imaginative tag, without adding the general tag that has its inherent property. So, “deep groove symmetrical abs“ is perhaps compelling, but failing to include “abs“ in general makes it of a limited searchability.

Second issue is a hidden or ambiguous meaning that does not offer enhanced differentiation from the broader topic. Even something like “brick abs“ can mean five things to five different people, not to mention something like “sidewinder glutes”. (There are those who are passionate about such tags and perhaps use them as a means of highly personal organization, but that’s a different topic that can be addressed in the tag merging thread).

The above two issues together can gum up the works. Now issue three: there is a small cohort who wish to occupy all 10 tag slots, with searchability/accuracy as an afterthought. So, when typing in the letters A, B, S, the picker list will show the top 10 variants, providing an easy way to make a random pick.

The best answer I can think of is to continue merging duplicative or highly personalized/ambiguous tags with tags more reflective of an inherent characteristic that is widely understandable (and which is hopefully descriptive of muscle on a female model).

May 13, 2025 - permalink

Tag: "Black & White / Monochrome".

LOL

May 13, 2025 - permalink

I'm just dropping by to say that I'm in favor of more generic tags than specific ones for one very simple reason: people get too deep into their specificity...

tamarok
May 14, 2025 - permalink

Tag: "Black & White / Monochrome".

LOL

This sometimes happens when a black & white image was merged into a coloured one, though going through them there was at least one image that was mis-tagged, despite not being a merge.

cgsweat
May 14, 2025 - permalink

I also imagine there could be a future enhancement where users can omit search results with certain tags. If/when that day comes, you can then query for photos and specifically exclude biceps.

I've been filling in tags in anticipation of this. For example, I don't care to see images where she's wearing a face mask.

May 14, 2025 - permalink

This sometimes happens when a black & white image was merged into a coloured one, though going through them there was at least one image that was mis-tagged, despite not being a merge.

That's a logical explanation.

I've been filling in tags in anticipation of this. For example, I don't care to see images where she's wearing a face mask.

What if you have a kunoichi kink? XD

On the other hand, this picture had "sleeve" in her Tag list XD Not only she is nude, she's not wearing sleeves in any of her picures.

May 14, 2025 - permalink

Sleeve is one of those (still) abused tags that got me to start this thread ...

these are just from the current first page for the tag.

May 15, 2025 - permalink

Granularity on its own can potentially be useful. But, there are three issues that are problematic, not just attributed to granularity. Let’s use “abs” as an example. The first issue: using a very specific imaginative tag, without adding the general tag that has its inherent property. So, “deep groove symmetrical abs“ is perhaps compelling, but failing to include “abs“ in general makes it of a limited searchability.

Second issue is a hidden or ambiguous meaning that does not offer enhanced differentiation from the broader topic. Even something like “brick abs“ can mean five things to five different people, not to mention something like “sidewinder glutes”. (There are those who are passionate about such tags and perhaps use them as a means of highly personal organization, but that’s a different topic that can be addressed in the tag merging thread).

The above two issues together can gum up the works. Now issue three: there is a small cohort who wish to occupy all 10 tag slots, with searchability/accuracy as an afterthought. So, when typing in the letters A, B, S, the picker list will show the top 10 variants, providing an easy way to make a random pick.

The best answer I can think of is to continue merging duplicative or highly personalized/ambiguous tags with tags more reflective of an inherent characteristic that is widely understandable (and which is hopefully descriptive of muscle on a female model).

I built a custom cms for a client that had tree based tagging system. Basically tags could be created to have hierarchy such that you could create a tag that was “abs” then have children tags “brick abs” and “8 pack”. If you searched for the parent tag, all children tags were automatically included. However you searched for “8 pack” you would only get “8 pack”. I gave no limits to the cms, you could keep nesting tags. We could have something like that for GWM.

Chainer
May 15, 2025 - permalink

I built a custom cms for a client that had tree based tagging system. Basically tags could be created to have hierarchy such that you could create a tag that was “abs” then have children tags “brick abs” and “8 pack”. If you searched for the parent tag, all children tags were automatically included. However you searched for “8 pack” you would only get “8 pack”. I gave no limits to the cms, you could keep nesting tags. We could have something like that for GWM.

I have been planning exactly something like this.

May 15, 2025 - permalink

I built a custom cms for a client that had tree based tagging system. Basically tags could be created to have hierarchy such that you could create a tag that was “abs” then have children tags “brick abs” and “8 pack”. If you searched for the parent tag, all children tags were automatically included. However you searched for “8 pack” you would only get “8 pack”. I gave no limits to the cms, you could keep nesting tags. We could have something like that for GWM.

It seem to me like an excellent solution to please everyone.

I hope it's possibile to do it soon.

May 16, 2025 - edited May 16, 2025 - permalink

Jeez, another idiot tagging this skinny specimen with delts/shoulders, biceps, abs, quads, forearms, calves, I've reported a few of hers for not enough muscle anyway

https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/722205/

tamarok
May 17, 2025 - permalink

Jeez, another idiot tagging this skinny specimen with delts/shoulders, biceps, abs, quads, forearms, calves, I've reported a few of hers for not enough muscle anyway

https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/722205/

This look like it must have been tagged quite a while back, since every indication suggests it was tagged before the new system was in place.

May 31, 2025 - permalink

Maybe someone could help explain this one?

Curvy thumbs ?

Jun 01, 2025 - edited Jun 01, 2025 - permalink

Maybe someone could help explain this one?

Curvy thumbs ?

Evidently, there are some fans of fingers of the hand.

I was totally unaware of it too.

With 1 only subscriber, it seem to me to be one of those totally useless tags, accettable only if there is really nothing else to put.

There are, instead, some users that change good tags with these totally unknown and useless tags like also stairs, peace sign, leather belt, posing block/studio cube.

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