Poor girls have spent years building awesome bodies just for natalia to stand next to them and make them look small
Slava called Nat the strongest "woman in the world." Lets hope the girls can make a run at her.
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Slava calls Natalia the strongest woman in the world. We see why here.
1 + 1 = 2
Natalia is on another stratosphere to these girls! 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪❤💖
Slava is very young and went from skinny to 160. Lets hope this inspires her for more. She is only 22. Plenty of time to grow.
Hopefully, way more than one. Her post about this pic made me think she may want more.
Natalia was 5-5 and 195 a few years back and well under that before. Slava started real skinny, but so did Natalia. The 5-9 frame has more room to add for sure at age 22 and the way has steadily gained. It depends on what her goals are. Sponsors will be there for her no matter which way she goes.
Slava is aware she needs more size, she only just entered her first contest, and says she will be focusing on legs in the immediate future. See Marina Lemonovskaya's gallery for updates on Marina's condition. Marina has returned to stage after over a year rest. It has been 10 years since Natalia and Marina were the same size! Marina has no plans to become another Natalia. She is very happy as Physique Pro.
Marina looks nice. I wasn't thinking of her getting near Natalia due to her height. Slava has the height and time that she could make a run at 200 plus if she has that on her mind. It would be a process as it has been for her to get from skinny to winning her 1st contest. Marina has a nice look for physique.
I really would not get your hopes up that Slava will even consider becoming the new Natalia. Natalia is a once in a decade or 2 sensation, very few women have the desire to become as extreme as they can. Marina was delighted to meet Natalya again at Fibo, and looks pretty good next to her, and Slava was delighted to meet her. And they respect Natalya's achievement just as we do, but they have different plans, to be great in Physique.
Thanks. I've been around the sport since it began, so I know the size aspect for the most part. Nobody really thought Natalia or several other of the biggest ever were going there until they did. It does take a mindset and would put you outside the box of competing. I was not sure what Slava's goal was since I never met her. She had said she was not sure what was next when she won her 1st contest, but physique is not doable at Natalia's size or even close.
Lets see what the judges bring this year and more importantly the sponsors. The money often drives the market. Natalia is so big that she created a market which has fueled her growth the last few years. You need sponsors and she certainly did and took advantage of it.
Women of Natalia's strength are far more than one a decade. They are many now, but most would not be fbbs since there is no money there. Crossfit, powerlifting, weight lifting, and other sports offer more opportunity unless you have a really amazing look like Natalia and that is still a semi niche market....as are all the female muscle looks. Nobody has caught Cory yet in terms of the mainstream, but maybe that door will open again at some point. It is trending for the better. The sport was near dead a decade ago in all categories. It is coming back some which is great.
Very cool activity and pics at the Wings booth. I think most of them made it here. It is nice to see 8 or 10 world class fbbs and physique girls at a booth at the same time. We have not had that like the old days. Maybe the sponsors are coming back in. That was a nice gathering of talent from all over the world. Great to see that again. It used to be great when you had mass gatherings like that for a weekend and you could get to know the girls a little bit. You might even get to work out with some if you could hold your own and had any game.
Yes, zig563, you have been around as long as me then. Rachel McLish was where I started following the sport at her first MsO, and I caught up on the few contest that happened before, at that point. Marina thought she would not bother with Fibo after last year, she did not enjoy, but went for 1 day this year, and said it was much better. And Slava, it was her first and she was bery inspired, although suffered with a bad cold and had to leave early, sadly. WOS has done a lot to recreate interest in FBB after the sponsors withdrew. But it takes a lot of effort, and even Physique is starting to struggle a little now. In Greece, there was only Katka turned up, and they cancelled the contest. Same for Slava, no Physique contest even listed for Malta, but they gave her a shot on stage on her own. And she looked great. So, we need to support the women from Physique upwards, it is the "non flexing" side of the sport that is more popular, and sponsor rich, sadly. interesting about Cory. I agree, she was great, and inspired many women. My personal ultimate FBB will always be Lenda. Beyond her, I see size etc, but not the perfect mix of symmetry and balance. Marina is an example of an athlete who could have been a mini Lenda back in 2010 - 2011, but it was not to be. Now she is a great Physique athlete, but she has other priorities and sadly will not aim for the very top. She is happy to be a giant killer!Re Natalia, there are many around I agree, but Natalia is the one who most will see and notice. For example, Renee Toney, is the one many fans compare Natalia against, thus my reference to one a decade.
Nice Bicepslynn. I was a kid with Rachel, but following. I was big into lifting myself, so that always helped connect with women at events like the old WSE. They can see you are stronger than them and it gives you a talking point to go along with the being a fan. I got to meet some great ones and the sponsorship was good back then as you recall.
I hate hearing that about the sport now. Figure never interested me, but we all know the reasons the supplement companies and sponsors go there and left the other sports less $. It was really dry after the baseball scandal which indirectly killed bodybuilding here. The MLB hearings in congress increased enforcement of roid laws by sticking 3 times more manpower on the cases. Lots of arrests including bodybuilders in the US. Many name ones included. The penalties are not the worst, but felony level in some cases and with jail time. Nobody wants that.That changed almost every hardcore gym in the US. You could not walk in and ask who you talk to. Sponsors left and shows went from Madison Square Garden for Ms Olympia at it's best to a Hotel conference room in Vegas. That is quite the fall. Sponsors all left. The "20% rule" was the dumbest thing ever.
The contests and sponsors are mores spread out now. I'm glad they put some money into it, but it sounds like they need more. There is no ONE contest anywhere like they once had. We need something beyond FIBO or the Arnold which are both great events. It was nice to see all those great girls in one spot like we used to. Travel alone is an issue.
Lets hope for more.
Natalia was more like Gina Davis off season huge to me, but you could say Rennee Toney, Becca Swanson, and a few others. Renee is the only one who was a pure bodybuilder. The others did some powerlifting. I did not really follow her career much. Her look was not for me, but she was huge. Natalia has more to sell to fans of her market imo than Renee ever did.
We agree on most of this. Lets hope it trends up. Thanks for the inside reports from the event. The thinking if the girls is very important about events like that. They used to privately tell me they were unhappy in some cases and sure enough...the sport went downhill and the events died. I'm glad her experience was better in 2018 than 2017. That is a step up. Lets hope for more of the same.
It would take an incredible women to get where Cory was with the media/movie bias against female muscle being where it is. The 1st thing they think if steroids.....and many girls went on TV and did documentaries about how the sport is loaded with them. I'm not sure that did the sport any favors even if everyone knew it and it was true. That is the hard sell other than a TV role here and there. Cory did not have that issue.
Lenda was great. Loved her and Kim C after her as Ms Olympia. Lenda was a class act always and beautiful woman. There are many great women in the sport....but some obstacles to deal with.
This is the proof that Nataliya Trukhina maxes out EVERY other woman in EVERY way...Now all you idiots can see why I always say that she is the sexiest, most superior woman with the biggest & best body and hugest muscles. All the other woman are put to SHAME by comparison! And YES: I compare ALL women’s bodies to Nataliya! You can no longer say she’s not the best and most attractive... If you DO, you’re just lying to spite me!
zig563 The steroid thing always rears it's head, but IFBB follows world drug testing regulations, it is all in writing. When promoting Marina, I get this all the time amongst people who do not understand the sport. My response to the usual "Oh, well anyone can do that with steroids" is to point out that IFBB follow world regulations in that banned substances are not allowed. In most sports, there is a list of banned substances, but also what performance enhancing medicines are allowed. Most sports allow certain drugs or medication as it is nicer to call them, and we see drug scandals in cycling, athletics etc. Usually that helps make people understand that most top end sports have permitted substances, and that is OK. We can't duck the fact in FBB, but if you look at the real natural contests, in my opinion, the women look like they did in the early days, quite ill.
There is that issue for sure. The sport would not appeal to it's base without a certain amount of muscle. It is a niche sport, so you need that. It is amazing how little the average person (which is a very broad term) knows about strength training, nutrition, and even roids. I don't know how many people buy testing in most sports. It depends on the sport and if they take blood, urine, and when they test. Olympic standards are as tough as any and we have seen science beat the testing many many times. Things have changed a little since they now freeze and maintain the samples so people can be stripped when the testing catches up. Most pro sports (money reasons) don't have anything like that and never will. You want to talk strong....talk American football players, yet the public does not want to know....just hide it, crush people, and get out of the sport. The testing is there, but so easily defeated unless the tester shows up at the wrong time. All the players know how to cycle on and off at the strength positions. No penalties for men there and yet sponsors run like crazy from a small sport like bodybuilding which is lower revenue, but the connection is always made in the average Joe's mind to roids.
I guess there is no way to change that. It just amazes me how people in the US and some other sports where the players make tens and hundreds of millions turn a blind eye to the very same thing. The testing works a little.....not much here. I know a ton about that and so do the players which is why only a few per year are caught while most use. The same idiots are the people who are so worried about "concussions." Such a scam.
Bodybuilding got the short end of the stick on that, but it is not big enough to do anything about it...plus the other sports often involve more than just muscle. The muscles enhance, but are not the whole sport itself.
The natural contests never have and never will sell. No argument.
Tell Marina to stay positive Lynn. It can be hard at times with the revenue challenges and even fan base. Add in a misinformed public and the main motivation is usually love of sport. She has a great look to her. I wish you, her, and the other girls in the sport or promoting it all the best. It is improving, but very slow in terms of that key area of fan base and contests. That comes back to sponsors. It has fallen back a bunch on the men's side too. No more Arnold or Lou. Most people would not know Mr Olympia if he was standing next to them and that includes me. The protein and supplement companies kick in some, but would love to see more. The media for the sport has cut back too. No magazines and all those ways of selling and many people don't buy their protein at GNC or a like outfit now....just go on line.
Lets see where it goes.
Looks like a report of this.