Wear a mask, folks. Jodi says so...and you wouldn't want to face her wrath.
And I do, even before Jodi said so. If I go past my door, I have one on. It's just the right thing to do.
Sorry I do not wear one. I am a full time paramedic and have daily first hand experience as to how this is absolutely nothing but fearmongering.
Wearing a mask does not make me feel fearful.
It's just smart to help stop the spread of COVID 19. A real paramedic wouldn't say what Abted said.
Follow science, not politics: https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/sti...
I know her biceps (rightfully) get most of the attention, but look at those eyes. Be still my beating heart.
I am following what I see every single day at work. Your not going to convince me the sky is falling when I am living it daily on the "front lines" and know that its nothing but a case of the sniffles.
Yeah...whatever abted....People don't die or get placed on ventilators from "a case of the sniffles".
She is the whole package. I never pass up a photo of her on here.
I'm with you, abted. These officials can't even get their stories straight. My own doctor explained to me what hypercapnia is, and what happens to your brain when recycling your own oxygen. If the government is so concerned, why aren't they pitching tents with the red cross and dispensing masks? America stormed D-Day with thousands of recon and and thousands of troops, yet they can't do basic things like this? They said millions would be dead by now, and how many here have had to delete how many contacts from their phone because they died 'of' Cooties19, I mean, covid19? Where was all the restrictions when the Spanish flu happened? Life was functional, yet they had millions of deaths
Sorry I do not wear one. I am a full time paramedic and have daily first hand experience as to how this is absolutely nothing but fearmongering.
You're a paramedic, but don't wear a mask?
How exactly are you still employed again?
Abted's obviously lying.
It's very simple: LISTEN TO SCIENCE, NOT POLITICIANS.
drakdale nailed it. Abted's is lying, and this may show in other comments.
Of course I am forced to wear one and place one on the patient when I make patient contact per PA DOH protocol or I would loose my job. I am talking anytime not on an actual call when i'm free to make my own choices.
So abted considers himself free to become infected and in turn infect other unsuspecting people, even though he claims to be a paramedic. Great logic.
@jimmyhats The fuck are you talking about? Yes, masks were a thing during the 1918 pandemic, they were also opposed by dumbasses, same as now. No one with working lungs is getting hypercapnia from a mask they can breathe through. There have been about 3.8 million confirmed cases in the US and 140,000 deaths and it's going to get worse, just because you haven't personally been affected doesn't mean no one has. And as for the poor government response, have you seen who's currently leading the government? I should just nuke this entire thread as offtopic for the site, but then people whine about "muh free speech", as if it's in any way relevant to comment moderation on a private site. I suppose it's best left up as a testament to the Dunning–Kruger effect instead.
I'm so glad most of this community has common sense. Lol
Yes, wear a mask if you're out in a public space. It's about protecting other people and prevent your own air droplets from spreading in the case you are infected but asymptomatic. It's a necessary precaution and honestly, it's not that hard or even asking that much. It's the stupidest, simplest, and smallest thing to ask for.
Everyone should wear one! Besides: That biceps peak! grrrrr
Abted, I have friends and clients who are nurses, and they tell a very different story than what you are telling. In fact, one of my nurse friends spent six weeks in New York City in April. Masks work. Masks are necessary. I'll trust her expert opinion over yours. Better yet, I'll trust COVID-19 researchers who have been working directly for the past four months with patients of all ages with the virus, and they all say masks work and masks are necessary.
Masks are not fearmongering. The virus is not just a cold. Healthy and young people can catch the virus and can have a really bad time of it, complete with lasting effects such as scarring of lungs and heart issues. This is a nasty virus that you don't know how you'll do with it until you actually get it. You don't die or suffer brain damage from wearing a mask (I've been wearing one in the gym since gyms opened back up in Texas in mid-May; I've done the stairmaster for 45 minutes in one, and I've trained heavy legs for two hours in a mask. It's not always the most fun thing in the world, but I haven't lost any brain cells, and I seem to still be alive.
Most importantly, if wearing a mask means that the people around me in stores and gyms are safe, I'm willing to put a five-inch cloth on my face. I'm not interested in being responsible for someone else getting sick, no matter how mild or how severe their illness might end up.
I'd suggest that both your comments and Jimmyhats' comment should be removed because both are spreading misinformation and falsehoods in a harmful manner, but it's nice to see that all of the other people here are refuting your falsehoods and instead demonstrating they are on board with science, research, and logic.
Put the face condom on. Just like the actual condom, it protects others from what you might shoot out.
Bravo, Jodi! Well said...you keep doing your part to keep everyone safe. It is much appreciated!
Amen, Jodi! I could not agree with you more! How could it hurt? Wearing a mask may be a bit uncomfortable, but isn't it worth it? We not only have to protect ourselves, but also our fellow people. Geez, how difficult is it to wear
a mask when in public? Oh, and I am in Long Island, NY. Not far outside of NYC. This was one of the worst hit areas in the US, but is now one of the best. All due to people taking the proper care. I just hope it stays that way.
Maybe someday I will stop using my eyeballs and reach all your great Do-Gooder Humanitarion statuses. Until then have fun living in fear.
Right, Abted. Because when we put seatbelts on ourselves or put children into child-seats or take an Uber instead driving after having too much too drink or don't smoke cigarettes in the presence of others or put a scarf, gloves, and boots on to protect ourselves from snowy weather or put a condom on to keep someone else safe from pregnancy or STDs or stop at a yellow light . . . these are all things done because we live in fear. Right now, my eyeballs are being used to roll so far up my head that I can see firsthand how my brain uses logic to make decisions.
And you, you have to be one of the most illogical paramedics, if indeed that is what you are.
Or you're just a troll.
Nyt, I live in Texas, where our governor was so anxious to get a pat on the back from Trump that he started the opening process earlier than originally scheduled or advised, rushed each phase to occur earlier than originally scheduled or advised by the federal government, and made it difficult for local mayors to make decisions for their respective counties when it came to masks and other decisions, and then suddenly clamped down with a state mask mandate that is only being half followed anyway by Texans who think they are so independent, renegade, and fighting for their rights, as if we can possibly put the toothpaste back into the tube. Now, our numbers have skyrocketed (I'm not just talking about cases, but the positivity rate has spiked as have hospitalizations and even deaths, so this can't just be blamed on "more testing"), and we're amidst the ranks of Florida and Arizona.
All of this was handled so poorly from the very top and could have been mitigated in a much better fashion way back in February and March, including providing support to Americans in order to stave off economic decline and suffering during government-mandated shutdowns. Instead, we--as a country--are a dog chasing its tail.
Abted...Jodi just owned you with facts. If you are really a paramedic, I bet you are the first one through the door without a mask on any residential call. We used to call guys like you in the Marines "Bullet sponges" who'd volunteer to be first through any door no matter what. I suspect you aren't one so why waste the time.
Jodi, it really baffles the kind how government in TX and FL have been so nonchalant about the situation, though as you said, it's all about political favoring at the end of the day. Sacrifices of the populace be damned.
At this point we need to look at how different countries are dealing with the pandemic. The US is one that is doing the least well amongst “first world” countries. Heck, even Canada is not willing to take the risk of fully opening the border with the US (it is technically closed, but with a some exceptions).
While a pandemic rages on and numbers aren’t subsiding, taking precautions make the most sense. We aren’t in position of luxury to work out how effective something is, but there is evidence that not wearing increases risks. Decreasing risks is really what masks and other measures are about. Eliminating them is unrealistic.
In any profession there will be those who think they know better than their peers. In certain cases they may be right, but when lives are at stake you’ll need to show some hard evidence.
As for science, it is an imperfect process of theories, analysis, experimentation and validation. It is only as good as the currently available data, so it is normal that conclusions can change. What is dangerous is when politics and vested interests ignore all of this and push for approaches that are based on nothing, but ego. When lives aren’t at stake we can often turn a blind eye, but this is not the time.
Ask yourself: would you want to be wrong about wearing a mask or not wearing a mask?
I've been in love with Jodi Leigh Miller for years, and she finds a way to make me love her even more...
I agree with Abted, workers in virus centres wear full length body suits to keep out a virus, not a flimsy bit of cloth. Mandatory masks is simply to keep up the fear and nothing else.
@maraman Then you're an idiot, they're intended to catch most of the saliva droplets that can carry the virus and disrupt the airflow carrying them, while still being convenient enough that people can carry out everyday tasks. Do you think surgeons wear them just for fun? They're a simple statistical measure to reduce the odds of transmission.
The mask cultist be like "I TrUsT tHe sCieNtiSt anD cOvId rEsEaRcHeRs" But then when you link accredited research with names and PhDs attached that say FOR FACT, MOUTH MASK DO NOT WORK, suddenly yall dont trust the science and start judging people.
@Gkajr76 Link it then. Again, face masks are not some new technology that's only been used in the past year.
Thanks @chipperpip however the virus droplets are far too small to be caught in the face masks. They also cause oxygen levels to drop. And wait until this 'simple statistical measure' as you say becomes permanent, only ended by taking a rushed through unsafe vaccine.
Maraman, all of that--regarding virus droplets and oxygen levels--is incorrect. Multiple nurses, physicians, scientists, professors, and infectious disease researchers have refuted and debunked both of those statements time and time again with concrete and factual details and demonstrations. Please stop spreading misinformation that can prove to be harmful if someone were to follow your opinion.
Warning: If another statement of misinformation that has been debunked by the science community is posted on my thread again, I will ask that this thread be locked from any and all comments, which has already been offered to me as an option by the moderators.
@maraman I'm always amazed by people like you, you have an information network containing a significant portion of the sum total of human knowledge at your fingertips if you actually had questions regarding epidemiology, yet you'd rather regurgitate secondhand myths you saw on Facebook or somewhere instead.
Science, not politics:
Thank you Jodi!!
Right on, Jodi.
Jodi if something is posted on a contentious issue I believe that you have to expect debate. This is a contentious topic not universally agreed on at all by experts out there.
Chipperpip not myths but there we go, many doctors and experts do disagree but are not given airtime by the media.
However it is obvious that we are not going to agree and I don't really want to get into a slanging match on a site with nothing to do with it so will leave it there.
The virus is out there. At this point there is not that much we can do about it. But at least we can be sensible for it, trying to do as much hygiene as possible, keeping distance from others, avoiding gathering of people whenever possible and also wearing a mask. In Asia - South Korea for instance - they are usually wearing them and seem to have good results and positive effects with that. Besides wearing a mask is at least important to keep in mind: The virus is out there.
Please Wear a mask like your wearing something on your feet
You're presenting a false equivalence that just does not exist.
Facemasks aren't some conspiracy. They're just a preventive measure to slow the spread of COVID 19. The only people opposing facemasks are politicians who have another agenda besides our health in mind.
I can still vaguely remember a time before covid. In this time I could sometimes feel being hit in the face by a little droplet of spit from someone I was speaking with. As I am not perfect I expect that it also happens the other way arround. Even if there are some scientist telling that a mask doesnt work it at least stops those dropplets. If there is a chance that wearing a mask combined with washing my hands and socialdistancing is what I can do to help keeping others safer then wouldn't it be selfish to not do so?
As for fear,fear in most cases is a mechanism that keeps you from taking risks that can be harmfull to yourself and others. People without fear die very very young. If you don't fear covid oke,but there are others that do and you can help them being and feeling safer by keeping distance and wearing a mask.
Wear a mask, only handle it by its straps and put it in a ziplock bag after use to prevent cross contamination
As for Jodi, wow a reason for feeling sad to not to be living in the states but Trump makes me glad Im here...